Doug

ESTJ You like to roll up your sleeves, dig in and go right at getting the job done. you use logic and analysis as guiding principles in your life. You're quick to decide and set out a plan of action. You make sure commitments (your own and those of others) are honored and the job gets done. You value team sports, and other group activities. If something is the tradition of your job or school, you'll take part in it. You know that you have to "earn your keep" and take responsibility for yourself...you take your roles seriously (father, employee, student, or whatever). You learn best in structured settings...you're a take charge kinda person.. you can deliver when there's a specific task with deadlines...you have an orderly and logical way of evaluating things.. You like a task-oriented and structured atmosphere...you get a thrill outta accomplishments and just having finished something...efficiency is important to you....with you, "what you see is what you get." You are the prototypical leader. You give advice freely, you take charge, you wanna fix the problems...you are quick, direct, and crisp at getting to the core of the situation...others might look at you as tough, driven, or heartless, though.. You put work before pleasure, and know when to do which...fun time is often seen as a reward for accomplishing a task... you don't just go for walks.. the walk hasta have a purpose... Love means stability and steadfastedness...however, when you fall in love, this is pretty much the only time you'll be flexible and spontaneous... you expect security and loyalty in relationships...you logically expect that a relationship will have its ups and downs, so let the other person weather the tough times, when you should be helping perhaps...you don't like to let others see your hurt feelings....you're supersensitive to being rejected and may not always share that hurt... Things to watch for: you might decide too quickly and to form opinions how things "ought to get done." But what happens when circumstances change? Also, don't walk on others feelings...it's part of working with others and you don't particularly consider this part often...when you get emotional and you've been holding stuff inside, a seemingly minor incident will set off an explosion...don't forget to consider others' values and opinions. ESTJ: "Execution Saves The Job"

What an enjoyable 20 minutes of my life that I'll never get back!

Stim Bullitt....The Man! He inspires me not only as a climber, but for his perseverence in life.

For the record, in my lightweight 1st aid kit, I do carry a CPR mask & latex gloves. Of course, after being around cc.com, a biohazard suit may be the next addition. Did you know there is an increasing prevalance of people who have an anaphylactic (sp)reaction to latex & other rubber products (no joke). There are some new synthetic gloves on the market that take care of that risk.

And people who don't buy lotto tickets have a very poor track record in winning the lottery. Personally, I would try CPR with a trauma victim. I'd have a hell of a time living with myself if I didn't at least try. But that's just me. See CPR supplies thread for the precautions I'd take.

"Wow, she sure gives good bivouac".

It is sad to hear about yet another climbing acccident. I hope that all involved, both from the victim's climbing party & family, as well as the folks who witnessed and attempted to help are doing as well as can be expected. Kudos to those who tried in vain to save the guy.

Only Forum!!!!

Mmmmm....that was good. Did I get it all off of my chin?

If women want to talk to each other w/o interference or spray from men, then use IM or e-mail. I believe that it's very diificult to achieve equality from behind walls or a closed door. On the other hand, If the women of cc.com want a forum to call their own, and want a selected cross sections of their opinions and views to be open for public display free from the threat of being walked on, let them have it. Kind of the same ideaology as a 1st Ave. peep show, dontcha think? You can look, just don't touch......

Penicillin Princess - The Pork Dukes Long Tall Sally - Scorpions Tokyo Tapes

I think this http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/157105 tops that. The reason I post this is I know Brock's father. Find out who your state representative/senator is, write them and let them know how you feel about the WSP's policy on their own road hazards.

According to Lucy, I'm a BLOCKHEAD! I am Charlie Brown

Know how many Teamsters it takes to change a lightbulb? 3 What? You got a problem with that?

I saw some strange looking creature buying a box of acme climbing products. Mumbled something about chasing some weird bird up some desert cliffs......

Hopefully this will drive the final nail into the coffin of this thread: Two strangers were seated next to each other on the plane when the guy turns to the beautiful blonde sitting next to him and made his move by saying, "Let's talk. I've heard that flights will go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger." The blonde, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly, and said to the guy, "What would you like to discuss?" "Oh, I don't know," said the player. "How about nuclear power?" "OK," said the blonde. "That could be an Interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat grass. The same stuff. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass in cylindrical blobs. Why do you suppose that is?" "Oh brother," said the guy. "I have no idea." "Well, then," said the blonde, "How is it that you feel qualified to discuss nuclear power when you don't know shit?"

I AM NOT GOING THERE and you HAVE to be kidding me This is why there should be a background check and waiting period prior to purchasing a DIGITAL FUCKING CAMERA!!!! That is some sick shit!

Well shit and fall back in it. I learned something new today. Ever see a ship dropping anchor? That chain just running through the portal into the abyss? Well, I had a rather spicy lunch today. And I also have a moderate intestinal malady. Let me tell you, that last trip to the bathroom was like shitting 6 miles of red hot anchor chain.

Over Share. Total Over Share!!!!!

Just tie in and climb for God's sake! Oh yeah, no matter what knot you use, have your partner check it out before you go. It is true that a weighted bowline will untie easier than a weighted figger ate.

I was raised by Charlton Heston and John Birch. Didn't they just apply for a marriage license in San Francisco?

Scott, She looks like her mom (damned good thing) Greg, You must not have a mom.

Anyone else find it tastless that the news media uses this board to mine for information? I PM'd king5news and let her know I thought it was tasteless. Maybe I'm a little sensitive because I knew the deceased. I hate having to deal with carp like this, especially because I have the flu right now.

I have a 8.2 mm glacier rope and have rapped on it a couple of times, but it's a sphincter puckering proposition with my fat ass.