Pete_H

Where the fuck are you from?

Only sport climbers drink Bud, tradsters drink microbraus, OE or import. You're welcome. Microbrews are too over the top malty or hoppy. I usually drink Becks but Czech pilsners are the best.

BLT's are pretty tasty, but I prefer Reubens. Washed down with an ice cold Budweiser.

What makes a Wilderness Area different is that no "mechanized use" is allowed. The controversy (at least as far as wilderness vs. non-wilderness is concerned) is not so much that bolts have been placed, its that the bolts were placed using a power drill - obviously a mechanized tool. Wilderness areas aren't exactly what I'd call arbitrary either as they have clearly designated boundary lines and it takes an act of congress to make them so.

I love the part in Catcher where all the kids are at some religious assembly and its all quiet and some kid lets out a huge fart.

Marc's a good climber and definitly seems like his got his shit together a lot more than most kids his age. But he's still a punk. FYI though I've already got a gear cache set up by Givler's for the sit start I'm adding to the route. It'll be so ill.

Must be nice to be 18 years old and know everything despite the fact that most of the other contributers here have been climbing longer than you have been alive. Its also perhaps relevant that most of the route was previously climbed ground up, sans bolts.

Kev, what part of shut your stupid fucking piehole don't you understand?

He'd go blind first.

With the hundreds of feet of tubular those dudes are usually toting they may actually be able to girth hitch my nutsack.

Trucked it to Renton to be part of the sweet granite bouldering and cragging area there.

Just as I doubt anyone would have the motivation to unbolt IB I doubt anyone would have the motivation to rebolt it if it was unbolted.

Sorry I just find it a little bit Hunter Thompson-esque that you found yourself at a dinner party with Oliver North and his wife. Anyway, if you see her again, tell her I said hello.

Dwayner's proposal sounds reasonable to me.

Are you sure that wasn't just a mescaline and vodka induced hallucination?

Someone needs to free solo that nekkid on a busy summer weekend just for the reaction by the mounties and gumbies. That would be some funny shiz. Beckey route on Lib Bell would be a good one for that too.

Why? That shit gets climbed so much its just as solid as any granite.

If I climb it I'll be carrying a crowbar.

I'm sure Kevbone will post again soon enough.

Not Direct East Butt. There's a grid bolted 5.13 sport route on the east face of S Early rap bolted by same dude who did IB and a few other shit shows in the Cascades. A 5.6 climber could literally do the route.

Look at that abortion on the east face of South Early. It goes at hard 5.13, but has mandatory 5.6. Talk about dumbed down for the masses.

Well ... I'd say that's exactly what has happened with IB and similar debacles put down by the routes progenitor.

Another good source for wilderness medicine / wilderness med classes (WFR, W-EMT, etc.): http://www.remotemedical.com/ Local company.

You probably ilegally downloaded the copyrighted music off the internet too. Thief!

"I have clipped many a bolt but i believe we should leave the alpine just that, alpine and these i-b kind of routes for the crags."