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Plus they probably have good pot.

Can't tell, that's just a list of when shit was filed and scheduled.

If by best you mean overbolted shithole choss heap.

Interestingly enough that's one argument I've heard on the pro side of grid-bolting these obscure erstwhile chossheaps for the masses - is that it keeps the crowds away from other, better crags and spreads out usage / impact. I suppose that argument makes some sense.

Robertson's totally wrong on this one, the earthquake was clearly the fault of the gays and fornicators in Haiti.

I guess technically alpine means above treeline, but since people have had BBQ's on top of the lib bell spires with grills and kegs of beer, it seems more alpine "light" to me.

Any route with a pitch called "The Pressure Chamber" is pretty rad, IMHO. Debatable about whether its an alpine route though.

Someone should punch Pat Robertson in the cunt for that one.

Well said Bill!

Good point. But what about Infinite Bliss or that lame route Windham put down on S Early?

You're out of your element, Puget!

I'm afraid of Richard Simmons in short shorts!!!

I'd second Hyperspace. Sustained with lots of variety.

As far as imposing one's ethics on others it occured to me that Pope and Dwayner really aren't all that traditional. In a larger, historical perspective many of the manners in which they choose to climb would probably be considered unethical by previous generations. Chalk, harness, sticky rubber, even using ropes at one time were considered technilogical advances that gave climbers unfair advantages and were to be avoided. Pope claims that techniques such as bolting, hangdogging, and rehearsing have unfairly led to the capability to climb higher grades but couldn't the same be said about modern climbing shoes and cams (and surely a lot of other gear Pope and Dwayner have used, such as sweater vests, etc.)? Where one draws a line and claims further advances in the sport are unethical is effectively a completely arbitrary and subjective deliniation. Climbers are always going to be adopting new strategies, techniques, and tools in order to climb bigger steeper and harder things. Such is human nature. That being said, I think Pope and Dwayner make some legitimate points about over-bolting and unfettered bolting in the wilderness / mountains. But unfortunately any rational arguments get drowned out by their absolutism and will to impose their ethics and style upon others.

Not really.

I think its funner to not carry bivy gear when you don't have to, but to each their own.

At least he's wearing his helmet!

Good one PP! Another hilarious zinger.

That would have been too stylish to take off.

Was it a turtleneck sweater? Because wearing a turtleneck sweater is like being strangled by a really weak midget all day long.

huge?

I'd talk shit about leading EBGB's except for the fact I had to pull on the first bolt to get off the deck.

I'm soooo over the forced march out Mtnr's Crk but it's still better than descending the scree nightmare of Cascadian and hiking BACK up to Long's Pass.

For the full NR you can camp near the moraine on the north side. Awesome view of the ice cliff and good water source. Too late in the season for the Sherpa really depends on the year, but I've heard of people descending it pretty late with a rap to get in and crampons and an axe, of course. I've done it around 4th of July on an average year and it was fat.

How about the BD Kilowat? Supposed to be pretty neutral and easy to ski.