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It depends, if she is always asking to go climbing with me then a good place to take the little lady would be Index. The way I see it, if she doesn't like the place and freaks out, then it's an early sign that things just won't work out. However, if she loves it, thats a keeper. Call me selfish but GNS, The Tooth, Ingalls, and Midway get pretty boring after a couple ascents.

The Gash?

Congrats man! NEB of Slesse at 15? Keep up the good work!

ALERT: this year for the first time ever there were more registered female freshman than males. Damnit, I knew I should have stayed in Bozo this year. Not many cuties in Sultan.

Respect, he likes offwidth and his nine year old son climbs harder than me. I can't wait for Raindawg to post on this thread!

Oh, how I miss Bozeman, only a ratio of 5 dudes to one female. This would further explain why Bryan has this one tied on. Way to stake your claim dude. Five+ years in that town has taught you proper technique, not only in Ice Climbing, but in 8D. Hopefully for Johns sake, Bryan will untie her for a day while they blast the route.

I think I did that a year ago in two weeks? Definitely needs a good dumping on the summit snowfield with a little melt action for the route forms up. Hey John, you should go for the Lowe Direct.

So, I recently got a cool job giving me Sunday, Monday, Tuesday off. I thought this would be sweet except my partners usually can only do Saturday climbs. So now I find myself scrounging around the crag for partners, scrubbing routes, or TR soloing (can't find a soloist for lead) out of bordom and desperation. Anyone else have these days off? I have been climbing for 10 years. Lead 5.10+ trad, WI4, and beginning aid climber. I prefer to go alpine climbing most of all. I live about 15 minutes from Index but don't mind driving to dry areas if needed. Leavenworth?. I'm looking for a regular partner with a similar schedule and abilities to rope up with. Pebble wrestlers and spandexit 32/38ers need not apply . PM if interested.

Mr. Frieh, is that your photo?

Mmmmm, first pitch of the Lowe Route on the Sphinxter. Fun stuff!

Could you explain the correlation between S Seattle and why it's definitely stolen gear? Sorry to offend, In my experience with that area, I've run into alot of sketch balls. Same with anywhere though.

I kinda want to meet this deusch! He's from south seattle too - definitely stolen gear.

I love how there is about 4 separate conversations on this thread.

I didn't notice any broken glass or anything unusual when I arrived at 1:00. It must have been between 1:00 and 5:30? There are alot of d-bags who make the rounds through that lot everyday. Hope it all turns up, I'll keep an eye open around Index for your stuff.

What time did this happen?

If the Dawg showed up to rain on the party I would feel uncomfortable. People have pissed on him long enough , its only a matter of time before he goes postal on everyone with his ninja crowbar-nunchuck skills in revenge . I'm gonna play it safe and go to work instead, hope everyone has a good time !

I'm sorry, I said that I'd bring fire wood. It turns out I probably have to work so I can't be there. sorry ya'll.

He was climbing Gorilla my Dreams on the Winkie Dinkie cliff, decking while trying to clip the first bolt 30' off the deck. He broke his femur, collapsed a lung, and some pretty bad back injuries. He was conscious the entire time. It turns out he was climbing with a buddy of mine (total surprise). He was evacuated within 2 hours of the accident by helicopter to a Seattle hospitalfrom the slab above the black wall. There was a few of us climbers who helped the fire fighters and EMTs haul gear and rig the hauling system. It sounds like the climber will be OK! Special thanks to the Index, Sultan, Gold Bar, and Monroe Fire Rescue, as well as the Snohomish County Sheriff's Department for a fast efficient and safe rescue!

Grivel North America ceased distributing Grivel products on September 1st, 2008. We did our best over the last few years to keep the company alive but the flagging US economy and the Euros strength against the dollar prevented us from doing so. Thats business speak for we can't compete with BD and Petzl.

The reactor is a great ice tool. As for a first leashless tool, you could not find a better one. It is great on lower angle to vertical ice but not too great on overhanging ice because of the angle. It also feels very solid on mixed, more so than the vipers or cobras. having a leashless tool like the reactor would make learning to lead soooo much easier than a leashed tool because you don't have to fumble with the leash. I hope this helps!

Over my ten years growing up as a kid climbing at Index I've scrubbed K-cliff in 2004, Cut back the brush on the approaches to the Inner Walls and the Upper wall trail many times. I've been going to school in Bozeman, Montana the past four years. In my time spent in Hyalite Canyon, I spent time directing early season water flows to popular climbs found in the Genesis area so that people can have spectacular pillars and icicles close to the parking lot (make it to these climbs last season? wonder why they were so fat?) I'm not a stranger to helping a local crag. Look I don't know any of you. You don't know me. I can tell you that being back in Washington, I will be doing my part to help maintain Index (The routes listed above will have a few cleaned this fall). As far as the "Natural" comment. What I mean to say is that slings on a tree are replacable, holes in the rock are not. It's just how I feel about it. Keep slandering me if you will, I've had enough of this ego drivin shit talking! I'm Out!

Sol, You don't even know me, or what I've done for Index or other crags on my own so STFU! Doug, thank you, this is what I wanted to find out. While I may not agree with it 100%, if you had a unanimous decision among everyone you talked to then I can live with that. My OP came across a little harsh and cavalier, I had just had a heated discussion with my partner which got us both worked up. So fear not, I'm not going to chop the bolts because I see that they are important to people. I just worry about the future of the crag due to things I've been noticing. But the times are changing and I just need to live with it.

Check out the Cascade Alpine Guide volume I, II, III by Fred Beckey, I'm sure you'll find tons to keep you busy.

plus, you don't damage the tree itself... Ok, for those who may need a refresher: Rapping from the tree is natural, the tree is super solid (ie. not going anywhere anytime soon) whereas the bolted belay is just another needless scar. OMG I almost forgot, save the trees .

So I'm climbing at Index today and what do I encounter???? Bolts at the top of Rogers Corner before the start of BOC. This has been done recently, WTF, The tree is still great! Has anyone else seen this ? I've been noticing this BS quite a bit recently, like a bolted thin crack up by the inner walls. I guess we can attribute this to the recent popularity of this place in the past few years, but people need to show some respect for the history of the crag and the ethic of the place. What's next, an intermediate anchor before the traverse across Princely Ambitions? A bolt added to the runout on Zoom? This crap just pisses me off!