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Great, I can't wait to have another third person analysis of an accident from someone who's over the hill and thinks they know everything. No really I hope the climber's OK.

Brushes, crowbar, and bolt kit. Have fun!

Obviously, Grivel North America is gone.

Second weekend should be great. There's a pipe coming out of ground nearby that should have water flowing.

Other than just getting more milage on the specified climbs, go climb some long slab routes at Static Point or Darrington. The hyper-awareness of friction and subtle features has really allowed me to push myself on the face routes at Index.

It's a different type of game. Technical and balancy instead of burl. Takes alot of practice, but you gotta love the classic Index slap to the face.

I'm going to spare the personal shots I really really want to send to many of you. I am very disapointed at the level of discourse by many of the people in this discussion but it is CC.com what do you expect. I am a trad and alpine climber so I am well versed in bootying gear. However, when I see fixed draws on a route (overhanging or not, if I sent the route or not) I know to leave them in place. Someone obviously is serious about pushing their ability level. How can something be wrong with this. You would really have no knowledge of modern sport climbing tactics or no morals to believe it's OK to take multiple fixed draws off a route. IMHO It's the same as stealing fixed lines off a project. As for the "it is an eye sore arguement" It's effing Little SI.... big whoop. Bottom line, Bret meant nothing negative to come of this. He simply wanted to report his draws stolen. This discussion is pathetic. Have some respect!

Not today! Great day all by myself.

Plaques at the base? Please don't. Let's just make annonymous donations and call it good. And yes, they do have the best route names in the world!

Wow Jens, you and many others need to open your eyes to the source of the problem and not try to blame it on the people who live in those towns. The whole reason for the traffic stems from too many people using a road that could never handle that much traffic even before the stoplights. I live a mile up the road from the first stop light when you're heading west and before the light was put in, we (among 1,000 other residents) wouldn't ever be able to get onto US2 on sunday let alone any sunny holiday. The business owners have nothing to do with the traffic, I have family friends on the Sultan City Council and they are all honest people who wouldn't allow something like that to happen. The residents from Monroe to Index would like nothing more than to see the highway expanded thus improving traffic flow. We have never been offered free grant money from the state for this. We would have accepted it if offered. You think you're pissed off for waiting in traffic one day so you can get home to Seattle? Try living here and having all of you clog up the one road out of town Jens - Please refrain from making unsubstantiated claims. A boycott of the business's in these towns wouldn't help anyone.

Cunning Stunt and Tunnel Vision should be dry on Sunday..... Take a number and wait your turn on Sunday if that's what you're looking to do. It snowed up there today

Be ready to get wet on the Upper Wall, there's alot of water up there right now. Abraxas is gonna be a waterfall. Go do a route in the Quarry and post a TR!

This is a question of mine. There have got to be regulations about this considering the fact that the North Fork is a Salmon and Steelhead run. However, wouldn't the the Quarry opperation just have to pay fines to get around this? Yellowstone Club in Montana re-routed streams and broke all kinds of environmental regulations to which they waived a wad of cash without thinking twice. I'm concerned that this might be the case for quarrying. But that was Montana, this is Washington - things might be a little different?

Nice boys! I miss Bozeman.

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Does anyone want to climb at Index this afternoon?

Sounds good Collin, I'll be around!

How do we donate $$$ specifically for the purchase?

Anytime Mondays, afternoon Tuesdays. Any kinda climbing sans pebble wresting. Are you up for scrubbing?

Oh, if anyone is interested in joining me for some scrubbage or climbing on Monday's or Tuesdays at Index, let me know.

Scrubbing routes on a rainy day is a great way to stay psyched. You can take out your frustrations on all that moss and lichen covering awesome routes. You'll have those routes locked, cocked, and ready to rock when it dries out.

Index - snow in the shade, lower wall is dry. See you up there!

I heard that too!

If you take the rivet out of the quark ergo (or quark?) head you can take it off and put it on the Nomic shaft. You just need to be able to find and put on a strong enough rivet. Stephen Koch did this a few years ago, it was a pretty sweet set up. Your setup looks much more convenient though.