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Pleaz allow me to sell subcripshen to Beatard Climb Magazine. If sell nuf subcripshen, we get go to Beatard heaven. I lernt no pragrin flaconz closing in Beatard haven. But wait, if u axe now, also get u free chock baIl wif sel subcripshen.

Thanks!

Do you think the Spitfire boot could double as a mt climbing boot in walk mode? Crampon compatible? Is it intended to be just a ski boot or more of a crossover boot? Seems the holy grail would be one boot for skiing & climbing but I've yet to see anything that is good at both.

Boc, boc, bagoooccckk! Where's the Rooster when you need him?

Some of us see it much differently. Carry on.

Joe, the climbing management plan is long overdue to be re-vamped and re-evaluated. Yes, resources are spread very thin for Park Rangers but I sure as hell don't see all this drama and wishful thinking you refer to. All the more reason we should build an alliance with the Park as well as the decision makers higher up the chain. This is an opportunity for the climbing community to step up and assist the under serviced parks dept by getting organized and being proactive towards the problem(s). This might just help in taking some of the load off the strapped rangers. Again, you seem to see things very differently than a majority of the climber's involved. Are we headed in the right direction? Time will tell. Much to your denial, this is not the same "Beacon Bitch Fest". I'd argue that most of that is Kevin stirring the pot, but he's even been pretty quiet on the issue this year. So, yeah, obtuse, set in your ways and stubborn as a mule. Whatever you want to call it, I'm just trying to be open & transparent cause I don't think all this is any big secret, anyway.

Joe, I think the secrecy is geared directly toward you, primarily due to your obtuse position on the matter. At least, that is my read on it. There has been a big step toward getting all this out in the open and transparent. At the same time, some folks are going out of there way to try and nurture relationships with the agencies involved. Seems you have your own agenda that is perceived by many in the local climbing community as conflicting with their own goals at Beacon. Times are a changing and many of us believe it is time to grab the bull by the horns. We can engage the agencies and we do have some traction that has not been seen in years past.

Fixed the subject for ya. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46WcFObgYhI

annnnnd that is why I have serious misgivings about frats. Who the fuck hangs out with a group of people who spanks you in the ass with a paddle? a kid I know on the lax team had to go to the strip club and get slapped repeatedly in the stomach by fat strippers for his hazing. If someone told me that I had to do that to hang out with them I would tell them to go fuck themselves and avoid them every time we shared the same general area. what is it with people? Can I hang out w you if you treat me like shit? Just get married if you want that kind of abuse.

I have a co-worker that has a hippy ass wife that is like this and I have watched their daughter turn into a drama queen harlot... all at the age of 6. Yeah, I've got a buddy with an only child who is a little terror. My kids, who are 2 & 4 years older are terrified of the little monster. He hits, kicks, pushes, takes toys away, throw fits, etc. If you bring the subject up to the parents they just ignore it all and let him rage. FAIL! However, since he has a brewery & pool table, I'll let it slide. I just don't bring the kids with me there anymore.

Sounds like your parents did spankings with a much heavier hand than mine...

Fixed it fer ya.

sadly, my cavalry officer father had a horse-whip close at hand reckon the old testament god wasn't such a fan of this study? My dad was president of his college fraternity and still has his old wooden paddle with all the names of pledges he whacked. Nine times out of ten, all he had to do was pull that old, taped up wooden frat paddle and we usually straightened right up. The other 1 out of 10, he used it with love.

No, actually, there aren't. Sure bout that? New Study Finds Why Spanking is Good Googlez

I'm too lazy, prolly cause I got spanked when growing up (not to mention spanked on the 5.11 route last week) but I bet there are a lot of "studies" put out on the other end of the spectrum supporting corporal punishment (not to be confused with abuse).

Seems the big delineating factor is a parent that does use abuse to vent and a parent that truly does care and is just trying to do what is best for the child in the long run. Not ALL spankers are abusers (IMO). Every spanking I ever got or gave was precluded and followed up by a calm conversation something like "If you continue to do XXX, I will give you a spanking (after lesser "threats" have not worked). Ok, now you know this is going to hurt me just as much as it does you, but you cannot do XXX and continue to get away with it. I know you don't understand yet, but we spank you because we LOVE you and want you to learn to do what is right." Same, same after the spanking... After kiddo calms down, put them on the lap and remind them "We love you, I'm sorry we had to give you a spanking"... Yes, I did feel like a hypocrite when spanking and really don't like the idea. No, the system is not perfect, but neither is life. Go ahead and flame on, Trashie... Then, there is the parent that just flies off the handle and smacks or verbally abuses a child at random or whenever the child makes a mistake. Clearly, there is a lot of room for a variety of levels of "abuse" vs "punishment". I'd argue it would be pretty easy to see the difference from a parent that hits to abuse/vent vs a parent that occasionally and sparingly dishes out a little pain on the ass to straighten a wayward child. Spanking is a tool, one that should be used as sparingly as possible. This does not justify abusing children in any way shape or form. One could easily argue that not disciplining a child is equally as damaging.

My parents occasionally spanked me but it was in now way a show of venting their own personal frustrations by "whaling" on us. Spankings were the last stop in a long line of lesser punishments. When we were a bit older, spankings were no longer effective so the turned to "restrictions" - ie grounded from play, toys, whatever. Sure, I'm sure you can find plenty of case studies where spanking is certainly abuse. I just don't believe it is a cut and dry scenario, rather, plenty of shades of grey between the black and white. I've spanked my kids when they were younger, again, as a last resort after other attempts have failed. I don't do it anymore, now that they are 6 & 8 years old and I am able to reason with them on a more verbal level, as well as taking away privileges and/or toys. I can also look at the opposite end of the spectrum where parents did not care enough about their kids to do ANY type of discipline and that has wreaked havoc on kids socialization too. I certainly do see the hypocrisy... "Don't hit your brother" - SMACK!

Just curious if anyone has tried the new LaSportiva AT set-up? Looks pretty sweet but a grand for a pair of boots and $750 for bindings? Yowza! LaSportiva AT Gear Linky LaSportiva AT Gear linky dos

Aren't all stick clipping sportos already anarchistic lesbian socialist subversives, anyway? They need cookies, too.

You can have my thin mints when you pry them from my cold, dead, rotten teeth!

+ 1 for the old school Dana Astralplane. It has been a great pack for well over 15 years now. I was hesitant to spend the extra $150 at REI for the Dana but my buddy convinced me... "Dave, the way you pack, you deserve the Dana". Glad I heeded his advice. I don't use it often anymore, but it rides well and I can fit a shite ton of shite in it. Day 34 of 35.

A wee bit of Talking Heads action there...?? I made a brief attempt to salvage the doll house for my girls but almost got thrown in the fire upon suggesting it. LET IT BURN!