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Wow, nice splitters. Is that limestone or granite?

Our freedoms and rights as Americans are rapidly eroding, very much like pre-Nazi Germany. Don't worry, dissidents like Kev will be targeted first.

The lady that makes this film The end of America seems to agree. Pretty interesting how she compares America to Nazi Germany, the similarities are quite striking if the content is true, which certainly appears to be the case. Wake up merica, your "freedom" is goin down!

Good point. But so BORING! For me anyway.

That's DANGEROUS! Remember, SAFETY First! Safety Starts here (point at head). Safety is NO accident!

Just did Pack Animal a few weeks ago. Fun line.

Yes, but it is really an "average", I'm sure there are many top athletes with much higher max thresholds than the chart states. My max by the chart is 178, I often push it to over 190 when trail running. When I was younger, I could get up to & maintain 220 bpm. Trainers would be dubious it was possible but I guess I just have big lungs. Been doing a lot of cardio all my life. You guys should check out the book - Mind, Body and Sport by Dr. John Doullard. It's a quick read and only about $10. "Until recently, the effortless "Zone" of peak performance was only within the reach of serious athletes. Now, with Body, Mind, and Sport, anyone can reach the Zone, regardless of fitness level. Designed to accommodate a variety of individual fitness needs, the Body, Mind, and Sport program is split into two levels. Level 1 is for non-athletes who want to improve overall fitness; Level 2 is for those who want to train for competitive or recreational purposes. Your own unique mind-body type is taken into account to guide you in achieving your personal best without stress or strain. In this revised and updated edition of Body, Mind, and Sport, fitness expert and trainer John Douillard outlines a program in which your individual seasonal constitution-Winter, Spring, or Summer-determines what exercises or sports are best suited to your mind-body type and what foods you should eat for optimum results." His training methods are the antithesis of the usual "push till you break down" to achieve max fitness. Instead, you approach training much more casually and differently throughout the various seasons of the year. He also claims we all have a particular body type which is a combination of the three primary body types - winter, spring & summer. Admittedly, I have not been as dedicated toward consistant training as I should, especially where diet is concerned, yet I have noticed marked gains when following his ideas. I would be very interested to see some of you fitness hero's (John) try it out for a few months. There is still a place for pushing ones body to it's max, but that is a much smaller portion in the overall training regiment. Premise being, if you continual push your body to the max, it does more damage than good. However, if you apply proper diet (individually designed) and train at a "comfortable" level, you can and will exceed your best performance with much less effort. The hardest part for me when embracing his methods is holding back and keeping my heart rate much lower. I tend to just go balls out and think I'm "training". I still do that once in a while, but try to maintain his principles most of the time. If you look at some of the athletes that subscribe to his methods, the results are impressive. Same goes for my own, albeit less dedicated, practice of his techniques.

I learned the hard way very early in my back country traveling that it is always best to have the best you can get. Nothing worse than cheap gear failing you a few days into a long, wet/cold trip. I think the newer TNF stuff is much cheaper in quality than when they were on the cutting edge. However, I've had remarkable success sending back gear than was 10, 15 or 20 years old and was always sent a current replacement or gift card of equivalent $ to spend at a TNF store. For example - I returned an original TNF Gortex "Windy Pass" jacket (retail about $100? at the time) that came out as one of the first Gortex products in the mid 80's. I returned it in the late 90's because it leaked at the seams. They sent me a brand new Mt Guide (retail $450 at the time). I then used that for another 15 years, sent it back due to leaky seams and they sent me a $450 TNF gift card, which I took to the TNF Outlet store and bought a Red Point synthetic puffy, shoes for me and the gal, a rain shell and a down micro-puffy. So, the original $100 (or whatever from the first purchase) is still serving me today. I lose the lifetime warranty on all the items I bought at the TNF outlet as they are considered "seconds". Still, I think I've gotten more than my original investment and then some. Their gear has served me well over all that time, too. I like other brands better but you can't beat the service TNF has given me. My opinion is that if you pay over $400 for a coat, pack, or whatever that you can buy a cheap one for less than$100, the company should stand behind the product. Returning used gear is an art form. I suggest if you plan to cash in on the life time warranty, write nice letter and let them know what a great company/product they have and all the cool ways you have used and benefited with the product. Let them know of the "issue" after schmoozing them up a bit. I don't always get a brand new replacement product/equivalent, but probable do 9 out of 10 times. Patagucci is really nice but pretty pricey. I have finally been able to acquire some in the past few years and like the durability of the gear I have so far. I also like Marmot, Black Diamond, MSR, OR, Metolious, Cascade Designs, Sierra Designs & a few other brands that usually have great service if you have a problems. Dane has a good blog with lots of product reviews you can dig up here as well.

That's what I was thinking. Sure looks like a LOT of good rock there.

Moscow was cool for the grade, 2nd pitch anyway.

I like to run Mt Hamilton when it's not so muddy. Table Mt (next peak east of Hamilton) is a bit longer and a better summit view. Either can be great training grounds but not as long as Defiance.

I was thinking two would be really cool...

cool, you have a headcam? No, but it's on the wish list. I can PM my address if you want to get me one for any early B-day/late Christmas.

7pm ish - Hey Jim, I'm gonna run to PDX, pick up some girls, be back later tonight." Jim "He's so full of shit." Come to find out, one of the gals told us she had done some climbing before but turns out she had zero experience. She did just fine though. Good times.

You gotta outlive them first, Pinko.

That sums up my personal experience of getting an occasional spanking. NEVER, was it in a moment of rage. But that was just in my family. YRMV. In fact, I'm surprised my parents did not beat the hell out of me in my rebellious years. I certainly deserved more than I got.

That sums up my personal experience of getting an occasional spanking. NEVER, was it in a moment of rage. But that was just in my family. YRMV.

You dare question the authority of Fox news. WTF?

We work for our suds: Step 1) Everyone carries a minimum of 6 beers (@ least 6oz preferably 22oz) Step 2) Only good (high test) quality beer. Step 3) ONE trail beer. Step 4) Climb as hard as you can for as long as possible. Being an old fat man that is usual taken care of in short order. Step 5) Drink all beer in continous succession until you sleep so hard that Thors hammer (partners snoring) itself will not wake you from your slumbers. Sounds like you might be ready to move up from apprentice to being a mentor...

Fixed it fer ya. You two keep it up and Minx is gonna spank us all..... oh come one now...have you seen my avatar? you have to say please to get a spanking from me. all kidding aside - there is a line between spanking and abuse. i'm not sure what it is. what's that line about porn and knowing it when you see it? my son received very few spankings. it was reserved for things that were really major and likely to kill him. i think maybe 4 of them. i'm sorry but there are some things for which a timeout is not sufficient. i had a similar discussion with a horseman that i respect a great deal. his take on it regarding horses was that it was definitely abuse if it was done to release anger or frustration it was abuse. if there was no potential for the horse learning anything but fear it was definitely abuse. obviously, i'm not comparing training a horse to raising a child. Minx, I'm a BAD boy, when & where do I get my spankin? So pretty please, with sugar on top.

Point is, there is always a "study" to support any side of any argument. Based on the OP "study", anyone who has ever spanked a child, did so out of anger/lashing out. I don't believe that is the case. Sure, there are plenty of abusers using the cover of "discipline". However, I'd wager it is a small percentile of the parents that have/do use corporal punishment that fit that category.

Tried that, but in the end, the BRBs wanted nothing whatsoever to do with any form of honest relationships built on openness and mutual respect - and you can't blame them - how can you be when you are all about unfairness and 'The Man'? the beatard nation is essentially an aboriginal democracy, broadly tolerating a wide range of incoherent beliefs and personages, from super-mellow, foot-in-the-grave moderates to foaming-at-the-mouth-tinfoil-hat types - democracy is ugly - probably why the founding fadders despised it? "mmmmm, recon I like me some of dem french fried tators hhmmmm, gruf, grnt, hmmmm" [video:youtube]

Step 1 - smuggle beers in unsuspecting partner's pack(s). Step 2 - offer all involved a 24 can or two (no bottles). Step 3 - "lighten the load" en-route. Step 4 - Retreat, spray, then repeat.

Rookies!