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Ravens on Mt Baker unzipped my backpack and stole my meat and cheese (while we were off practising skills). Fuckers just left me ichiban.

Yes, thank you Rob and Tvash for the correction on that. I found this web site that provides some analysis of voluntary labeling And the Wiki page on Food libel

What burden of proof is required of the producer to be allowed to label as non-GMO. Perhaps too much for small producers?

I always thought it was not legal in the USA to label food as "non GMO" or "GMO free". Something to do with "food disparagement" laws. Am I mistaken? Perhaps I've been watching too many documentaries about how bad our industrial food production is and can no longer keep the facts straight.

Beer copter was first! But the ultimate would be a copter that brings your texbook with a beer and a taco.

Good job, Doug Brown. Thanks for the TR.

Thanks for the link, Rob. I might pick me up a pair of those. Also looking for some skis for my wife to ride on the groomers, that site has is all.

Or you could take all that dough that you would spend on gear and lift passes and take trips to Smith, Red Rocks and J-Tree over the winter. PM me if you need a partner.

This thread is gay,

How is ol' pinchy anyway?

Its not virgin, its been done many times. Still a beauty though.

Sweet Jesus your going to get alot of PMs and spray on this one. Bona fide climbing partners...maybe not so much.

This kicks ass. But what aboot Canada, eh? -Squamish -Marble Canyon -Skaha -Bugaboos -Rogers Pass etc. Maybe more people would get off the chesterfield and have some Molson/poutine powered adventures.

You betcha!

You're f'd. Good idea.

Some other practical options that I have used include *Ferrying a begginer's pack across a sketchy section - this helps both physically and mentally *Linking arms to cross a sketchy section - consider it short roping without the rope. works even better to link arms with 2 confident climbers, one on each side if you are with a group

All of those are good options. It depends on the skill and experience of your group. This requires good judgement. There is no cookie cutter approach. The guidelines I would suggest: * Err on the side of caution * If anyone in the party asks for additional protection on a section they should not be denied or shamed * Party members should be encouraged to ask for additional protection when they feel they need it and not be embarrassed *As above, don't chose routes where you will be forced to take risks for the sake of speed when you are with beginners. Build some margin into your trip plan.

Simul climbing, running belays and short roping are all good options depending on the terrain and skill/experience. But perhaps more important is judicious route selection. Pick an objective where time is not of the essence so you have some margin for moving slower over 3rd/4th terrain, and where exposed snow slopes and such are limited.

Quote of the month. Add to that: long approach, climbing with a pack, cold hands, loose rock, wind, marginal gear placements, runouts, route finding, deteriorating weather...totally different experience than red pointing that 11a in the gym.

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I know I said price wasn't the biggest consideration...but $419 for that Marmot bag!!! Sweet Jesus!!

Thanks for all the input. Cost really isn't the biggest consideration for me. What I was looking to get out of this thread is: 1) What is the minimum temperature rating I should be considering (yes, I know it depends on how warm I sleep and if I wear a puffy jacket). I already have a 10 degree bag, so would err on the side of a slightly higher temp rated bag - if the forcast is dodgy or for cooler temps, i can always bring my 10 degree bag 2) Specific recommendations for uber light / good weight to warmth ratio bags Right now I am thinking a 40 degree down bag sounds perfect. I can always wear my puffy jacket with it and use it with a bivy sack in colder temps. Probably the 55 degree bag i was looking at will be too warm and at 670grams (~1.5 lbs), probably better weight to warmth options oput there.

I recently humped my 10 degree 3 season sleeping bag to Colchuck Lake and it was way overkill. I decided it is time to get a summer bag. What do you all use for light-weight summer alpine climbing? Would a 55 degree bag be warm enough?