MarkMcJizzy

I phrased my statement wrong. I saw a portion of the zoo, with Beth being a cheerleader, and Smoot being a sycophant. I did not see the final ascent. And as Eric said, hardly anyone did.

That's pretty much what I saw also. And that is why I keep pointing out what my friend Russ did, he was WAY ahead of his time. Russ's true love was bouldering, but he could have been the best crack climber in the US had he wanted to be, IMHO. Lets ask Lepeska, Timson, and Don Harder.

You know Pauley; your attitude is specious and arrogant. Can I discuss music with out a degree in music, or a contract and a producer? How about the war in Iraq? Should I join the military so I can voice my opinion? Do you think you own climbing? Are you some kind of thought police? This is a quasi-public forum, and climbing is a public sport. People are allowed to voice their opinion of what another does to the rocks and to the sport. Is that OK with you?

Hey Big Bry, Crazyjizzy is sincere, as are you.

I just read that article. It is a little known fact that Russ Erickson top roped City Park with a few hangs in EB's, in 1979, or '80.

Not me, or any of my close friends. But other than that, it is the worst kept secret in Washington. But if you don't know, I'm not going to tell you.

How about this one Lots of cool photographs can be found here.

In response to my points, Ben crawled out of his crib and said: Jeez Louise Ben, do you have thin skin or what? You’re sitting here on this thread, being a loud mouth, and using poor debate skills. Of coarse people are going to point out mistakes in your logic, or weaknesses in your points. Like I really had to dig deep to find your quote about Fred and the original bolts. Your whole argument is “Fred Beckey put them in! I’ll ask him! I climbed this route 15 years ago! I’m from Leavenworth! You’re all cidiots!” No offense to AlpineK, but it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to dismantle that argument. The inter-net, and these forums are merely a place to argue and debate. A fine and reasonable debate tactic is pointing out inconsistencies in the logic of your opponent. Your were inconsistent, and I brought that to your attention. Pull up your britches, and be the tough guy you all want us to think you are.

The leading supposition regarding the cause of Todd Skinner's death is the failure of his belay loop during a rappel. This may or may not prove to be true. But john Sherman has reported the failure of a skinny sling under bodyweight. People are quoting a finite use-life for metallic climbing gear. My points are: 1) Consider a back-up for your belay loop. 2) Don't use anything old or questionable when a failure is serious 3) Toss your old shit, especially biners and slings 4) It is easy to use two biners on your belay - rappel 5) Be suspect of skinny slings, double yourself up when "daisying off" at hanging raps, etc I do not believe that cams, nuts, and pins strength diminish with age, but that extreme use can cause failure.

Some genius asked Yet the very same genius said and then he re-iterates this fact

I am missing a pair of prescription sunglasses - Ray Ban? I bet they got put into the wrong pack at Midnight

Actually I went to WWU, the same time Joe did The imbricate structures are how they got there. You could imbricate dirt. Anyway, you were the first to back step, but in a couple more paragraphs you'll be crying about living in Seattle, and calling people cidiots. Oh, by the way, isn't this when you insert the fact that you're Fred Beckey's tennant into the arguement? That always works good.

Lopez could certainly be part of the Fidalgo Complex. Billy did mention Orcas, which is not composed of the Fidalgo.

Nice back tracking Ben, trying like hell to cover up when you're wrong. In regards to flysch, that was specific to the Constitution formation, I was not clear about that. The imbricate structures has nothing to do with lithologies. Brandon considers (at least) portions of the Constitution Formation as flysch, and I would assume that Joe and Ned do also. You are argueing apples and oranges. Oly: I believe that you are wrong. Would you like both Ben and I to pdf you our maps, so you can verify the aerial extent of the Fidalgo Igneous Complex?

I thought the same thing, until I looked at a map. Broadly speaking, rocks east of Orcas, including Lopez, are the same as Mt Erie. Mt Constitution is composed of very different rocks, which could be many tens of millions of years older, and generated thousnads of miles away from the Erie rocks. Ben, you should know better than to say this. The rocks are all middle Mesozoic flisch, and have been incipiently metamorphosed.

I was asked to comment on this route. I led the first pitch on the Saturday before Mothers Day, 1979. I drilled several bolts, and the climbing was never harder than 5.8. Peter Wojcik returned with Steve Risse soon after, and they may have drilled a couple of more bolts on the second pitch, and then bush wacked to near the summit. Bolts were only placed on the first and (?) first 50' of the second pitch. Any bolted fourth pitch is not Magic Bus. No cutting of trees was done. No excavation of cracks were done. I always thought this was a poor and forgetable route, "When Butterflies Kiss Bumblebees" being a much better effort.

Thanks for clearing that up, I was really wondering.

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It is my understanding that he spends an inordinate amount of time at truck stops. Also, at ascensionist. I'll leave a message there that you want him. Everyone will be real amused.

You're talking yourself in circles. Now you are saying that ice erodes, and water is the primary transport vehicle. For a temperate glacier, I would agree. But when this argument started, your hole thrust was that sub-glacial waters were the primary erosive force in a glacial system. But your own scientific sources, and your own arguments repudiate this. For a glacial system to effectively and continuously erode a basement, the eroded waste must be removed. Sub-glacial fluvial action is very effective at this. In the absence of this fluvial action, the glacier will over-run it's lodgment, and effective erosion will cease. By the way, Mr. Geomorphologist, a kettle is a depositional feature, and associated with stagnant and recessional ice. Although I am not familiar with this lake, it sounds like an eroded pool below a moulin

You got it absolutely right, and Dru can't read worth a shit. This has been known for a long time. Glaciers do not "push" well, the shear strength of ice is low. Because of this, it is often easier for a glacier to over run it's sediments, than to transport them. Dru is not undestanding the basic tennants of his arguements, and is mis-understanding what he reads. In other words: Dru is one dumb SOB.

Nice backsliding, you said them both I think that imbedded rocks cause stria, and polish is caused by a combination of imbedded rock, and rock flour. My main argument with Dru is his intransigence in believing that liquid water does the bulk of the erosion. I believe the old models, and Dru's arguments do not convince me. If he was right, then polar glaciers would do no eroding.

There are what I have interpreted as small roches moutonnees near Bruce's Boulder. I made this interpretation more that twenty years ago, but I must have seen glacial polish there. I have also shown this site to other geologists, including professors, and no-one has disagreed. The Snow Creek valley is often used in field trips as an example of a hanging glacial valley. This is an insane statement. Almost by definition, the plasticization of rocks is metamorphic deformation. The conditions under any glacier are minor in geologic terms. For instance, the rocks immediately under the South Pole should be under ~4.4Kpsi, or ~.29Kbar. Dru's statement is laughable, and shows that his knowledge of crystalline rocks is pathetic, as is Dru.

Thankyou Dru, that was a fine and proper responce. ScaredSilly could learn much from you, instead of bragging about molehills named after him in god forsaken ice covered lands. Your fluvial fetish is clearly showing, dumbass. From Easterbrook (1999) "Because of the close association with glacially polished surfaces, cresentic fractures, and other evidences of glacial abrasion, distinguishing how much erosion occurs by sub-glacial water relative to glacial erosion can be difficult". This, along with your stand on abiotic and extrophile derived petroleum deposits show what a loon you are, and no one should take you seriously. Now, fuck off.

Is there ice below the chickenheads now? Dru doesn't know shit about crystalline rocks Yes, mafic is more basic. They are also less resistant to chemical weathering than acidic rocks. Mineralogically, they are all similar in hardness. A huge factor in weathering is grain size. Yes. Does Midnight or Castle have huge masses of Chickenheads?