MarkMcJizzy

Good. I suggest that you contest the ticket, call the judge a "dumbshit", and get ready for lots of sex.

On the BBC this morning, Sir Ed was ripping climbers for continuing their ascents. While at least one climber huddled in a snow cave 300m below the summit, dying, other climbers passed him on their way to the top.

The following are not suitable discussions for an accident thread 1) A bolt on Yellow Jacket Tower un needed 2) "The" bolt on SEWS should be chopped 3) Accidents involving the Mountaineers Seems to be many, just check out their website. 4) The "Lodge" at Rat Creek It is a single family residence.

The topo map all the way. For the following reasons: 1) The vertical dimension is a GPS units weak link, and most prone to error. Ed Seedhouse has espoused on this at length on other threads. 2) A summit is a high quality target for a surveyor. 3) The old USGS topo maps were made by craftsmen, true experts at their field 4) If it has a BM on it, bet your house that it is right.

Dan is old school, you lose it, you lose it. Get over it.

Ouch! He so burned you Dru! Using his superior intellegence, and highly honed debating skills. Stuff he learned on the tough streets of Trinity Western University.

Maybe you shoulld check out this site on ST. His daughter may like to hear from you.

From ST, and Ron Olevsky

I have always paraphrased Occam's razor as "the simplest explanation is most often, but not always, the correct one". Would you agree Mr. Dawg? So applying Occam's Razor to Dru, is it a general rule, or a natural law, that he is dumber than he thinks? Is there a universal constant that could express Dru's IQ? Say 0.5? How about a universal Archenemy meanness constant? Maybe: {(Atilla the Hun)x(2)x(Khan from Star Trek)}?

I hope a dumbshit tree butcher drops a tree on your house, today! You're just plain mean

OK, Dru is a dumbshit. You might be onne also. What are you rambling about "flywheel tolerance"? The flywheel has nothing to do with a automatic transmission, it is mearly what you bolt the torque converter to. Why is Dru a dumbshit? Cause he keeps bring up his abiotoc theory of pertoleum generation. Scientist who really feel strongky about this use it for everything, including the origin of peat beds of Miocene age and younger. It seems to me to be a complete disassembly of Huttons work "the past is the key to the present".

1) Dru ( and others): Do you really believe that some or all oil came from a abiotic source? I don't think you really do, I think that you are playing devils advocate. The best book to read (in English) about this theory is Thomas Gold's "The Deep Hot Biosphere". Gold was an Ivy League physics professor, best know for being wrong. He was also very bright. Taken individually, his examples and arguements are good, but it requires disavowing so much geologic thought, theory, and evidence that i have difficulty with his thesis. Furthermore, no matter how it is generated, oil would still have to go to the same type of geoloic collectors it is now found in. Occams Razor leads me to believe that the current theory of petroleum genesis is in large part (>99%) correct, and Gold is a crumugeon. 2) I have always believed that since petroleum is an essentially world market, that the higher price of gas in other parts of the world was due to higher taxes (ie: Europe), and difficulty in local refineries (Africa). 3) This disscussion about mileage differences between manual and automatic transmissions is absurd. It is well established that manuals get higher MPG than automatics. This is due to the complete mechanical (when the clutch is fully released) efficiency of a manual transmission. At high speeds, all automatics lock the torque converter. But when these are not locked, there can be massive hydraulic inefficiency. 4) I firmly believe that there is little recoverable petroleum to be found in the tar sands. Much evidence suggests that it will take more energy to recover the sands oil than what is there. There are of coarse localized exceptions, but the great Canadain oil sand are a panacea.

Huh?

And you sure were a dumbshit for buying it Buy your former boss was even dumber for $pending ton$ to fix it up.

Hey AlpineK: Remember that red truck you used to have? That sure was a piece of shit, dumbshit.

Cause he's been banned so much, I don't know his handle, dumbshit.

PM me, I wanna tell you something cool!

I would say that the slab climbing at Squamish is better, for instance the Upper Apron, lower portion of Dream On, Local Boys, and Local Girls. I also think that the best of Darrington is better that Static. To me, Static is actually a small area, the "Lines", I never liked the routes to either side. But in the final analysis, any slab other than one in YNP is the little leagues of slabs. Did Crest Jewel last fall, and fot ten pitches never had to do anything other that foont. And I remember doing Misty Bethooven/Hall of Mirrors to the Ninth in 1980, and the rock was so glacier polished that your feet squeaked at every move.

It's not even the best slab climbing in Washington, let alone the NW.

I disagree. From what you are saying, I am against power bolting because I am against bolting. I have placed plenty of bolts, and formerly owned a two cycle piece of shit Ryobi. Power drilling in Wilderness is abherant and selfish because 1) It is against the law. 2) Against the spirit of the Wilderness Act. If it is OK for Scott Loomis to use his Ryobi in a Wilderness, should it be OK for a horse packer to use a chainsaw to cut firewood in the Bob Marshall Wilderness? And why should it not be OK for a goat hunter to haul his kill out of the Glacier Peak Wilderness on a dirt bike. If climbers do not close ranks against assholes like Scott Loomis, then we would be hypocrits to oppose chainsaws and dirt bikes. The law is correct here, and we are not talking about a victimless crime, we are all victims of this mentality. It was also interesting that my "Alpine Buddy" wasn't here to defend me from the charges of "asshole" leveled at me from several anonymous posters.

So all of you are telling me that this guy, who posts on ST, does not deserve to be called an asshole? He is selfishly endangering climbing for everybody, because he is lazy. Do I have a point? Is this guy an asshole? Or are you in favor of rotohammering in the Wilderness, in breach of law? Are people who attempt to destroy a sport for others assholes? Or are the people who "call them out" assholes? In many arenas of climbing disscussion, there is a tendancy to "kill the messenger", when a climber does something wrong, so as to seemingly not put a bad face on the community at large. This has happened here, and happens at other boards. I stand behind my statement, this guy is a asshole.

Won't let you write "asshole"!

Go back to whinning. Pouting and playing the martyr just isn't you

Followed in four minutes by this , although he is trying to sound tough, he is whining inside.

I heard that he was in that situation. Lets ask him. Gary: Did you get benighted at Smith Rocks?