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You are quite a dish!

I haven’t read every word in every post in this thread, but *I* never said CF substitutes for climbing. Just the opposite. Here is a cut-and-paste from one of my earlier threads: “CF…is more like high-level athletic training…[it is like] NCAA or NFL strength and conditioning programs---general physical preparedness…By design and intent it works on the general conditioning requirements any sport assumes you have going in. So a combination of CF plus your sport is the model CF excels at.” The citation of many high-level climbers who only climb are examples of individuals who climb all the time. Using them as evidence that general conditioning is not necessary is disingenuous and misleading. They don’t have jobs---all they do with their time is climb. This model hardly compares to the weekend climber or climber who gets in a special climb during a week’s vacation from their 9 to 5 job.

The Mountaineers' bookstore seems to have more of everything and a much more comprehensive selection than any retail store around here.

Twight took the CF model and calls it his own under the Gym Jones guise.

It's about Oirish that are extra aggressive

hydroman has a good point. I have worked out at CF Vancouver (B.C.). Very different place than CF Seattle. Also, because CF Seattle's coach Dave Werner is sort of a leader among CF coaches, many other CF coaches have visited our gym and helped run workouts. There is a huge range of styles and know-how out there. Did any of you go to Feathered Friend's Rep Night a few weeks ago? The guy with the most pullups, Jason (22 pullups) and the #2 guy (I think his count was 15) are both regulars at other CF gyms. CF excels in producing athletes who can produce enormous volumes of work. A dedicated CFer who has been doing the workouts for several months or more can crank out work at a hig level for VERY long periods of time. Kicking steps, swinging a tool, cranking up a chimney, prusiking or jumaring---a CF-habituated climber will just blow away anyone else.

The monthly fees are high, that is true. I have been to the big-box gyms as well as CF and from that experience I judge that you get what you pay for. I am happy to pay the CF fees given the level of knowledge, commitment, and client loyalty I get from the coaches at CF Seattle. They have know-how and experience that dwarfs the competence of trainers at places like Gold's or 24 Hr. Fitness. CF, at least CF Seattle, is more like high-level athletic training than the so-called fitness training you get at the globo gyms. Think more along the lines of NCAA or NFL strength and conditioning programs---general physical preparedness they call it---than aerobics & toning. By design and intent it works on the general conditioning requirements any sport assumes you have going in. So a combination of CF plus your sport is the model CF excels at.

http://www.crossfitseattle.com/ yeah, it's the gym I go ot been doing it 18 months, huge improvements in strength, durability, ROM run by an ex-SEAL, cool guy

Air-Sea Rescue World HQ in Zermatt should have been able to pick up the signal. Watch for legislation within a week.

Sheesh, fark carried this last night. Get something current.

this isn't farkin' caturday get it? fark? OK...back to work...

that cat looks like it is caught in the probability cloud of catness

kk is in da room! returned just a few minutes ago tanned, rested and ready.

Welcome back, hoser. In your poll, bad taste won out over common sense. Everything OK? Too frikkin’ busy to answer my emails? Bite me. eat ass, you poser. I was starting to enjoy this site turning into a halfways bearable place. Maybe you could stay away again, only for longer? KTHXBYE

the smell you detected is the regurgitated dog shit you ate for lunch. you gotta stop felching the neighbors' pets. as for "fresh" - you should talk. you splatter this forum continuously with copious volumes of immutable, fetid shit-spray. now go lick sack Oh, never mind. Obviously everything's OK. Same old charming kk.

Welcome back, hoser. In your poll, bad taste won out over common sense. Everything OK? Too frikkin’ busy to answer my emails? Bite me.

Cells respond to chondroitin in vivo but when the substance is taken orally, it’s destroyed in the digestive tract. So, taking it as an oral supplement has no effect. One would have to get a form that can be injected intravenously. Glucosmaine and MSM, however, do work. Best overall combination for joint health is daily MSM + glucosamine and at least 2gm (2,000 mg) combined EPA + DHA from fish oil. Best sources for the latter are either Nordic Naturals’ or Carlson’s cod liver oil. You can but cod liver oil that is flavored. It is super fishy otherwise. The Nordic Naturals product provides well over the minimum 2gms of EPA + DHA in only 2 teaspoons (measuring teaspoons, not silverware) of total oil. You can also buy fish oil or cod liver oil capsules. EPA and DHA values vary by brand and form. Do not get hung up on total fish oil. It is the sum of the EPA + DHA values that counts. It will take a while for the glucosamine-MSM-cod liver oil routine to have an effect, so in the absence of effects, stay with it. That said, at best only about 50% of all people (one study puts it as low as 30%) respond. It has helped me. I did two well-controlled experiments on myself a year apart and I know it works for me. Weak spot for me is my knees. The stress I put them under to run the tests was extreme. No way could a placebo effect hide the combination of pain, swelling, and ROM limitations that would have occurred had not something been working in my favor. In both cases, all other factors controlled, the only difference in each case was that I had been following my MSM-glucosmaine-cod liver oil routine for a few weeks. Prior to that I did the same routes with the same load but after having stopped the supplements for 6 weeks. In one instance then, I was not sure I was going to make it off the mountain, the pain was so disabling. My knees have also improved ROM since I started Olympic weightlifting. Both my coaches insist on a full squat without stopping at the bottom. ROM has improved hugely in the two years since I started that. Also, crepitus has greatly diminished. Because of what causes crepitus, it can be improved only by mechnaical means; the supplements can't have an effect on that.

So Bug is the site's new search function. Cool!

OK, over the limit for cc.com, sorry. But hey, it was strictly hetero!

How about six or seven? I just got a new camera.

Now that I see the Mormon thing, why don't we get a room at the Dirty Vinyl Motel and discuss Squamish Chief?

You build me up then tear me down.

Is that the Mormon magic underwear I hear about? I thought there would be more of it.

WHAT ABOUT CHICKS? The fallen-away Mormon girls, shameless aren't they? Are there many of them?

In Washington, the State Patrol maintains arrest and conviction records. Any background check goes through the State Patrol; they are this state’s “clearing house” that in turn reports to the National Crime Information Computer check system (NCIC). The records remain there forever. A “statute of limitations” refers to how long after a crime occurred that *prosecution* can occur. Arrest and convictions stay on your Permanent Record. But a court can order the State Patrol to drop a record after a certain time, like when probation is done. However, your lawyer has to include language that the record be deleted in any sentencing order it prepares on the court’s behalf (after negotiations with the prosecutor). So long story short, even if convicted you can have a conviction removed from your record, but it doesn’t happen automatically. Also I hear that even if a court orders it, the State Patrol may need to be watched and reminded to take care of the order to remove the record. I have no firsthand knowledge of any of this. This is just stuff I’ve picked up from my peer group. Just remember, it helps a lot to keep a lawyer on retainer or, failing that, get lawyered up right away. Money well spent (so I’m told).