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This thread began with a bunch of hostile vitriol, obscenity, and puerile name-calling but is ending as a thoughtful & nuanced discussion about an important topic. In other words, it's totally unnatural.

Yeh, I know what to do if I drop the device which is why I don't want to drop the device. But...what's the reference to "figure 8 going out of style?" What are you talking about there? A fig 8 device?---I'm talking about leashing my belay device to my pearbiner.

For a subaru dating service they sound like a short bus gang. Well, some mounties, anyway.

I just rigged one from small cord (3 or 4 mm, I dunno) and used it for the 1st time Saturday. It was a bit of a bother. Before that, every time I took the device off my pearbiner I held my breath and was verry careful to hold on to it, but it looks like all I did was trade one kind of grief for another. The length is right but that's the only good thing I can say at this point. Rope evolutions slowed as I worked with the leash in addition to rope, device, pearbiner.

Do you leash your belay device to your pearbiner? Or, why would you not do so?

Mounties wouldn't know what to do with the hookers or the condoms.

30 pounds? Try 50! NO WAY would I go out without my Helly Hansens, flare gun, and hand-cranked radio.

How is it that this "experienced hiker" left her overnight gear in her car...yet remembered to carry the all-important stationery and writing instrument? Did I miss another 10 essentials update? How is it that this "experienced hiker" continued to cover ground once she got into her so-called "emergency state?" It's not secret knowledge that SAR needs you to stay in one place for them to find you. Going downstream is more of a pilot-down-behind-enemy-lines kind of thing. Where did she think she would end up, Bellingham Bay? She was found 5 miles from the TH according to KOMO. This in 6 days. So she starts down a trail and in only five miles gets lost? Guess the ol' map and compass was too heavy. OK, for the sake of argument let's say it's secret knowledge that you have to stay in one place so SAR can find you...so she decides to keep moving (and use energy even though she's out of food). But in what direction does she travel? In a direction that she must know is obviously 'way different than the way she came, rather than trying to at least meander back in the direction she came from. Who coined the phrase "experienced hiker?"

They're more sensitive than you might think. They tolerate drugs, bestiality, asymmetric sex positions, even bolts...but one time I invoked the memory of Don Whillans and got deleted. F'ing country went to hell years ago.

I don't know either of you---thank God---but shouldn't you call him 'daddy'?

Dude, you are SO wrong. It's IDAHO plates.

ball and chain

"Mary Hyde's Toyota Corolla was found on State Route 20 between Nehalem and Diablo…The campground where she was expected to go was washed out and her friends assumed she went somewhere else, but Hyde didn't leave specific information about her plans…Her car was found near the Stetattle Creek Trail, but it was not known when she arrived in the area…crews searched areas along the Stetattle Creek Trail, Sourdough Trail, and Diablo Trail on Wednesday and resumed the search early this morning."

Any of you see this guy? "The park says 60-year-old James Christian Strong of Oakland, California, was last seen Sept. 10, leaving Sold Duc Hot Springs. He had planned to traverse the Bailey Range and arrive Sunday at the North Fork Quinault trailhead." http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420AP_WA_Missing_Hiker.html

I haven't owned a TV for almost 10 years...thank God.

OK now, whoa. Too much information. No more TR for you!

Oh, boy! A scree gully! Man, I want to get some of that!

You guys are such downers. I bet you hate on Brittany too.

It's called electrolysis, you drooling twit. I did it in 8th grade science class.

I had a couple jokes to go with 'chew-proof teat' but you old hands beat me to it. hmmm...maybe I got one in anyway

Well, no one had posted in it for a week until you just re-lit it.

Big 5 has brand X Red Chinese radios on sale for $20 per pair.

And to think this started as a question about gear...

Well I certainly hope so. Do it for the children, if nothing else. In another string KaskadskyjKozak is trying to class up the joint with some Latin. Need more of that.

http://ropedup.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-to-lock-off-belay-device/ see "Mule Knot on ATC" for tying off your leader when he bonks his noggin and takes a nap...you get out of the belay, go through his pack, and grab the cool stuff and pliz watch your language, I am an innocent & naive newbie barely weaned from his momma's apron strings