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Just my way of looking at it and I can see valid points both ways (garbage, tradition, and so on) but...If it's a new project you're putting up, leave the draws if you want but consider that just because someone climbs doesn't mean they're a part of the climbing community - don't be too surprised if the draws aren't there later. If it's an established route, take em down so others can climb it without having to remove them first or trust that they're in ok codition. Leaving your draws hanging on an established route is no different that leaving a TR hanging at a busy crag while you eat lunch. Don't assume that just because you can't get it done, noone else would want to give it a try. If you want to climb a route with draws hanging, remove them and leave em laying as your own morality dictates then screw anyone who gets pissed about it. If you take the draws though....you deserve whatever bad Karma you get. As I said, just my own set of operaing instructions. Different instructions may yield the same results in the end As for the original post...that blows. Hope you find your draws.

Blessings are aid.

Created in the 80s maybe? 18 is correct though.

Thanks. Would wind up being one more shiney piece sitting in the big blue bin then.

Anybody here try these? Good - bad - yawn? Was thinking of checking out a few in the smaller sizes. http://www.viamontgear.com/images/pdfs/pdf_tri-camscombi_booklet.pdf

http://www.nps.gov/archive/mora/general/maps/mapcompass.pdf

Cragging - Monkey Face Alpine - Mt. Baker Summit Scenic - Mt. Stuart Sunset Shadow Humor - One Rough Ride

Everyone I climb with has the rope coming out the bottom. It's the way I was taught as well and it seems unatural to have it the other way...to me. As for not keeping the rope in brake position, I've seen lots of people doing this, even some pretty experienced people. One friend tells me he does it because it gives a bit more of a dynamic belay. Not sure of the validity of that but on sport or TR, I'd prefer a quicker catch as I trust the bolts to hold. Maybe that's valid for ice or sketchy trad placements? Either way, for me it's rope out the bottom and hand in brake position.

I'm looking at the Brunton Nomad V2 Pro Digital Altimeter. Haven't heard much about it but the price is right (cheap), providing it's accurate.

I try to be responsible but it's hard to keep up with all these rules - if not REI, then where?

Did I see those heavy metal ones on your rack last year? I think so.

Glad it wasn't more serious and that you got down and back up again before dark. Did the SAR folks mention why they don't usually like one of the original party ro lead them back up?

Thanks Alpinfox.

What does happen when an MLU is activated?

Thanks. Sounds like it's doable as a "side trip."

Kinda trivial but I'd agree that "Canada" might be a better title.

From the summit of Stuart, what's the best line to take to get to a bivy spot that's as close to Sherpa's West Ridge route as possible? On average, how long does it take to get to that spot from Stuart's summit? Thanks, Tim

I like that 3rd shot - very nice.

Dungeons of Kroz

I don't know up front. Mine has switches to allow this manually in addition the the KB shortcuts. IO Gear should have an on-line manual though and a tech support number - that's where I'd go. If it were an ATC you might have better luck getting an answer here

Nice.

Alas, no KitCat was seen at the gym. It appears her boss had other ideas for her. When I started out, I assured my spousal unit that an investment of only $500 would be more than enough to satisfy my needs. I suppose with some self control a person could get by....I have no such control however We do manage to squirrel away just enough to pay for groceries.

Mine got real bad on a climb last year and took several weeks before the feeling got back fully. Seems to get worse every year. I'm careful to keep them from getting cold anymore but it happens anyway.

I think "member" will be fine after all.