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Looks like you found the best deal (so long as those sneakybastards aren't sneaky bastards!)

Holy crap! I would also say that by the number of posts by people in such a short period of time that you aren't the only one with similar problems!

I was going to mention the same thing. My younger brother went/is going through the same phase, though now he is in college. I also believe it resulted from not having good role models in his life at that time. My parents have stressed significantly over this, and their efforts to make him into more the person they want him to be drove him further away. Personally I feel that you as his father will not be able to directly change him because until he is 21(ish) he will rebel against most of the things you say. The best course to influence him is to insure that he is spending time with the right people. I agree that he will need a job soon, to pay for vehicle/insurance. If he doesn't want one, then consider asking him to begin saving money for higher education or even to pay for a small portion of his rent at home. When looking for jobs, make sure his first is one that will work him hard and teach a strong work ethic. Success at a hard job should bolster self confidence and make him appreciate his free time more. I would also say not to be discouraged... These must be the hardest parenting years (in my opinion)! I had serious issues with my parents during that phase of my life, but a few years later I realize that they were right on almost all counts. Good luck Oleg!

Damn Gary, those are some sweet pics! What a day sunday was, huh!? Thanks for sharing

Oh my... Those pics are sick. Great shot of the avy too! Damn that looks like fun! Way to get out there and git 'er!

Agreed! Just got AT bindings and boots for WAY cheaper than anywhere else. They rock!

Great TR guys, I just found it... With all this rain it's really nice to see pics from such an amazing place. Thanks!

Pam takes aim! Damn!

Hey Paul, I think you got some cool work there! I probably wont be buying any of it cause I couldn't afford breakfast this week (much less nice art), but anyway, good luck and keep up the good work! Welcome to cc.com!

Great photos guys! Sounds like a great trip!

Damn!

Soooo..... Seeing how it's 9 days later, what happened, who won? Or all we all winners because we got to look at pictures from people who know how to take pictures?

Great pics!

dude, have you checked this thread since you posted the question or are you just fucking with us?

Mammut genesis 8.5mm (60m)... Perfect for 2 or 3 person glacier travel, fold it in half for more technical belayed situations. Helps to have the option for a 30m rap I think.

Sweat it out! Sweat it out! Sweat it out!

I vote too many posts by people with skeleton avatars. Can we get some more hello kitty or airplanes or something?

If's it's really warm I wear a pair of Hercules work gloves (the kind with the cotton mesh top and super grippy palms). I have tried using the gloves and shell mitts thing and had a real crappy time cause my glove would slip around underneath the mitt shell... Bad idea. For colder conditions I use an approach glove (I think the OR windstopper fleece glove), black diamond spindrift gloves for climbing, and black diamond mercury mitts for belays. Seems to work okay.

I don't have experience with those particular products, but MEC seems to be a pretty solid company. My canadian buds seem to think so anyway! Tuff getting there stuff down here cause lots of times they only ship to Can.

Ha! "I'll take, hmmm, one of those... Both of those... And oh yes, those look like fun too!"

Great pics Icm! Good report!

Not to mention that there is a chick climbing ice in short shorts on that page. Is that what sold it for you?

She looks like she is about as big as his left thigh.

Holy Shit!!