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Will it be dry tomorrow? Anyone going out? Looks a bit iffy, but maybe doable. -Nate

Ozone or Broughton are the safest bet. Lately Beacon has been ice cold with the wind, but if your feeling warm and don't mind being blown off you feet, go do Beacon.

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Ahhhh you actually read koran you'll see that Islam is very violent, it is not a religion of peace. However, most modern followers have learned to disregard the teachings of Islam and follow a more moderate "peaceful" Islam. This is also true of people that follow the Old testament of the Bible, very violent and intolerant. It would seem that there are some followers of Islam that actually read the koran and take it literally, these would be people we call terrorists. They are a bit behind the times, much in the same way the the Christian faith was very violent before most of "them" decided not to follow anything from the old testament and stopped taking everything so literarily. (although it seems there are some folks in Christian faith that haven't gotten the memo and are in fact more closely aligned in ideology to a Muslim extremist) It just gets on my nerves when everyone says "Islam is peaceful, the koran doesn't preach violence" The modern flavor of Islam might indeed be peaceful, but only because these people have chosen to disregarded the what is laid out in the Koran. -Nate

Why is this a surprise? His kids are going to private school for the same reason that Obama doesn't fly coach or take the bus to work.

From this past weekend. I didn't go to the summit, only crater rock. Very thin up there right now, a few inches of wind-blown on top glacier ice. We made a few good turns on the way down but mostly it was survival skiing.

Will do. I'm still trying to decide if I'll make it up there or not. I'm a tad lazy so the decision would be a lot easier to make if I knew the road was open. Looks like a bit of snow is coming in on Thursday so it could change.

Does anyone know if the gate is still open? How far can you drive for the Colchuck trail head? I'm thinking of doing some recon this weekend. -Nate

i'm waaaay past you - i: - run a half-marathon everytime joe quotes someone and then writes a full paragraph point-by-point retaliation - do 50 pullups everytime pink puts in a pop-up lizard - do a brace of bench presses using me wife and 2 kids each time kevbone posts ANYTHING - run 3000 vertical feet on the stairmaster each time geoff can be dragged out of his lurker-ness to weigh in - and jerk off w/ a self-imposed deadline of 30 seconds anytime i double-post b/c i'm so haaawt waiting for the next reply Now that's what I'm talking about!

Quick question, have you guys ever considered how much time you spend talking about Beacon online. Rough guess? Let's try this, every time your tempted to post something about Beacon on CC go do some training. Get a hang-board, do pull-ups, run TR laps, lift weights. You'll be so fucken strong that you'll hike every route out there and even the most obscure line with shaky holds will feel easy for you. Bolts at Beacon, you won't need them as you'll be so strong you'll just run everything out between bomber natural pro. Loose holds, you won't care as those routes are soft and you can just campus past the. I'm not joking, let's try it for 8 weeks and report back to me with your fitness level. I bet you'll add-on at least two full numbers grades by converting Beacon Rock online spray into training time. -Nate

I also wonder if the TJ cabin will even be open at all. Usually they stock it with wood and do the maintenance during the Fall. With the road closure I suspect that they haven't done any of that this year. Even if you could sneak in on snow covered ground, the cabin might be all locked up or un-usable. Has anyone heard from the group that maintains the cabin to see if they have been up there? The skiing is good around TJ, but without the cabin it becomes less attractive.

So I take it the Cloud Camp Road is closed for the rest of the Fall? Anyone heard otherwise?

Of course Fairyweather would, he likes how Bush is running things. Maybe he works in the defense industry, he probably got a pay raise. There are certainly a very small group of people that have done well in the last 8 years. I don't think even this small group of people "likes" Bush, but they are doing well because of Republican policies and are going to keep backing the republican ticket in hopes that things will continue to go well for them. How big is the group? 5% of America? Maybe less maybe more? To get enough votes they'll latch on to some touchy issues (guns, abortion, etc) to drum support from the un-educated in middle America. Of course this is the biggest irony is the people that need the most help (low income middle America) get none of that from the Republican Party.

Yes, we waste billions of dollars and piss off the Arab world with our support of that Church-State called Israel. Mostly because Jews in this country seem to give lots of $$ to just the right people.

How is this news? Some guy rolled his ankle playing tennis last night at the local Y, where is the film crew? The bolt is actually in a good spot and not all that dangerous as the landing is flat and sandy. Although for the new leader this might not be best choice of routes to break into the grade. I'm not even sure if you could get that bolt with a clip stick, it is a ways up there (how tall are clip sticks anyway?)

Yes, it is mostly just a snow walk-up, no need for ropes etc. Be careful of the elevation as it hit me harder than I expected. It is nice to acclimate at the hut, but at the same time hanging around the hut makes you feel bored and lethargic. Also, the hut is indeed loud and a crazy mix of people, both climbers and non-climbers. Bring earplugs and/or an iPod or be prepared to suffer through all night conversations about Jesus. Not sure about guides but the route is so straight forward I would think anyone could do it. Getting to the hut is done by asking around town for one of the locals to drive you up there in a truck. Don't worry about setting a pick-up as there is trucks going to the hut every day and you can always ride back down with a different drive if your driver isn't there.

This thread needs to be moved somewhere else, clearly this has nothing to do with the original TR. Move to spray please. -Nate

Good topic. If the grade is moderate, I actually prefer not to read the any beta just for funs sake. Drives my parter nuts as I'm always getting lost just for the hell of it. On harder stuff, I'll study every known detail of the route to stack things in my favor. Although I must say that sometimes trying to memorize beta gets me into trouble. I'l spend so much time trying to look for that "mandatory" crimp that I'll mess up what would otherwise be trivial moves.

I went up the N.Side of Hood in October last year on cold clear day and found no falling rock, a bit of smear ice was "in" but other than that it was easy walking. Also note that some years there is a bit of snow on October to help you out.

Yeah this sounds like a bade idea. Not every cam needs to be extended, and taking a big whip onto webbing that was tied onto other webbing would make me nervous

Trout Creek has many a hard O.W, several of them are still waiting FFAs.

I'd buy them but I have size 8s.

I found them! Thanks for the help.

Impressive, more so because of his age. Most folks in their early 20s lack the mental discipline to pull-off something like this. One as to wonder what he'll be doing when he gets a bit older. Side note, I have to imagine that it is really fun to climb like this, walk up to a monster route on half-dome and cruise to the summit before lunch.

These polls are useless. The only thing that matters is the the state by state polls as we don't elect a president by popular vote. Looking at the State level, BO is doing OK, as he is up in every state that Kerry won and tied in several of the swing states. I have high hopes he'll take Colorado.