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There are three routes in the Backcountry Ski! Oregon book. Mine's at home but I can check this weekend for you. Or you can buy it: http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=1-1570612323-0

Yeah, I just read that they're getting involved with the Terri Schiavo case. Don't we have another branch of government for this?

Baseball is a competitive sport. Taking steroids is an unfair advantage. Smoking a joint when you're climbing for yourself has nothing to do with this. People pay good money to watch a fair baseball game. It's also a problem in just about every other sport. I don't want to buy a ticket to see who's better at getting away with doping, I want to see the better athlete. It's definitely not for Congress to get involved in, though.

And the award for totally irrelevant comparison goes to: Sisu!

And playing piano.

Yes he does Welcome back Fairweather.

Climb: Tahoe - Mt. Tallac-NE ridge Date of Climb: 2/14/2005 Trip Report: My friend Jason and another buddy were coming to Portland from Boston for a Cross Country meet, so we figured we should take a ski trip from here. Originally the plan was to drive to Whistler but we decided we'd have better luck with snow in California, so Tahoe it was. After asking around on this board I got a few ideas, but bought the 50 Classic Backcountry Ski Descents in California book to get some ideas on where to go. We flew to Reno and stayed in Tahoe City not knowing any better, so don't ask me for lodging advice. We decided Tallac was the one to ski. It's about a 25 minute drive to the turnoff for Tallac from Tahoe City. A quick steep skin of about a quarter mile up a hill will get you into the basin where the ridge starts up to the right. After that, you'd better hope you have climbing bars because it's pretty much nonstop steep skinning all the way up. We followed a skin track that had been snowed on a bit. The slopes going up looked really good, and there were not tracks outside of the skin track anywhere: When we got to a flat spot (about 9000' I think), ate lunch, and decided to head down from there because it looked so good: Fresh tracks, great snow, about knee deep. We went back up, did it again, and called it a day. The next day we decided to do it again, but hit the summit bowl this time. By the time we reached our lunch spot, it was snowing quite a bit. We made the summit after about 4 hours and headed down. The summit bowl was damn good, and well worth the climb. All in all, a great time. Tickets from PDX were $130 on Southwest, worth every penny. I'm already thinking of going back soon! Edit: This is my first TR, so any pointers are appreciated, or is this not worth a TR? Gear Notes: Skis, skins, avy gear.

Did you tell her your full name? Google is a bitch, eh? Bummer Mike, I just read this whole thread and my advice was going to be to find one running at Forest Park. Too bad it didn't work out, try again. It's just up the road from you, and the best time to go is on a sunny weekday after 5pm. And don't tell them your last name this time .

Tim, The approach from car to summit was approx 4 hours including a lunch stop 2/3 of the way up via NW ridge (I don't know if this has a name). Get on it!

That's funny. It reminded me of a question I had around election time regarding farm subsidies, republicans, and fiscal conservation. I asked here but got no good answers, so I used google. It's a simple statistic, but many red states spend more federal money than they give. Many blue states give more than they spend. See the link or google "donor states beggar states". On the other hand, mild props to Bush for including subsidies in his budget cuts.

Dru's works well. Don't need to bother with "site:" though, since just "cascadeclimbers" and your search words works fine. If you want to use the search function here, it's visible from the entrance page.

Is this a new speed record?

I read this late and you might've already paid . . . but if you're going to pay you might as well include a picture of both of your headlights on, with your license plate clearly visible. It's worth the chance that they'll give you a break knowing you're from out of the country and fixed the problem.

Tallac it was. . . and it was great! Skied there Monday and Tuesday. I'll post pictures later. Thanks for all the tips. I got a call from my friend saying that Tues. night (after I left), the areas got almost a foot and they skied the next two days at Squaw. Also, they're active Air Force so they didn't have to pay for tickets. If you're missing good snow, it's a cheap flight to Reno, $130 on Southwest.

Even better:

If a helmet has an EPS liner, it can be compromised without cracks showing. If your helmet takes a good impact, you're supposed to retire it. I don't know about the CE and UIAA standard tests, but the bike helmet tests (ANSI and SNELL) only certify for single impacts. Just a thought.

Glacier, did you notice my avatar pic? By the way, that record is pretty damn sweet listening. All of Herb Alpert's are.

Brilliant!

Sorry Glacier, but here goes your heart. Post

Sorry folks, but it's not looking good for our glaciers. From CNN: NEW YORK (Reuters) -- A weak El Nino and human-made greenhouse gases could make 2005 the warmest year since records started being kept in the late 1800s, NASA scientists said this week. While climate events like El Nino -- when warm water spreads over much of the tropical Pacific Ocean --affect global temperatures, the increasing role of human-made pollutants plays a big part. "There has been a strong warming trend over the past 30 years, a trend that has been shown to be due primarily to increasing greenhouse gases in the atmosphere," said James Hansen of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, based in New York. The warmest year on record was 1998, with 2002 and 2003 coming in second and third, respectively. Short-term factors like large volcanic eruptions that launched tiny particles of sulfuric acid into the upper atmosphere in 1963, 1982 and 1991 can change climates for periods ranging from months to a few years. Last year was the the fourth-warmest recorded, with a global mean temperature of 57 degrees Fahrenheit (14 Celsius), which was about 1.5 degrees warmer than the middle of the century, NASA scientist Drew Shindell said in an interview. Average temperatures taken from land and surfaces of the oceans showed 2004 was 0.86 degrees Fahrenheit (0.48 Celsius) above the average temperature from 1951 to 1980, according to Hansen. The spike in global temperatures in 1998 was associated with one of the strongest El Ninos of recent centuries and a weak El Nino contributed to the unusually high global temperatures in 2002 and 2003, NASA said. Carbon dioxide, emitted by autos, industry and utilities, is the most common greenhouse gas. Hansen also said that the Earth's surface now absorbs more of the sun's energy than gets reflected back to space. That extra energy, together with a weak El Nino, is expected to make 2005 warmer than 2003 and 2004 and perhaps even warmer than 1998, which had stood out as far hotter than any year in the preceding century, NASA said in a statement. The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said on Thursday the current weak El Nino will diminish and end during the next three months.

Wow it's fun to make broad generalizations using two examples.

I have a really annoying song stuck in my head now.

I don't have anything against Ascensionist, and I didn't intend this to be an anti-Ascensionist thread. Just a "Fairweather, why do you always talk shit about people here over there?" thread.

Why do you sling so much shit about people here on Ascensionist? You're not banned here, you can discuss here. I also like how you talk about preaching to the choir. You sound like a little bitch. P.S. I am a little bitch, so this is not an invitation for you to fight me. I'm just wondering what your deal is.