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Late feb onward I will be at vantage a lot. I will keep you posted. sport or trad, whatever you want to learn.

2nd that.

I am one of those flaming liberals who always preach against the government infringing on our privacy rights; but if they offered GPS locater chips to be implanted permanently into children, I would put both of my kids in the head of the line and pay the price. The thought of losing one is beyond comprehension.

Good job Tony. Much of becoming a great climber is having the knuts to push your comfort zone; but much is also making sure that you have the knowledge required to make it back to tell the story. You can get a lot of advice and knowledge in these forums, but only you can provide the knuts. I have no idea what your skills are, but if you need any updating in your rock skills you can meet me at Vantage nearly eny weekend this spring and I will teach you whatever you want to know. Keep pushing, and keep returning from the climbs.

Porter, I also suggest that you move the "kids yard sale" thread, and possibly Kevbone's "for the fathers" thread to the new kids forum. Merely a suggestion.

I propose a spring "Kids day" at vantage in about april, and make it a gear swap. Thoughts? e

Thanks Porter!

Twice I have had the feeling of a "lost kid." The second one was when my daughter was about 3 and decided it would be fun to play hide-n-seek at the park one day. Only lasted for about three minutes, but I could have killed innocient people during that time. The first was when she was about 6 months old. I went out to the car for a load of groceries and did not lock the screen door. She came flying out behind me in her walker, flew off the porch, darn near did a perfect flip and nearly stuck the landing, but went over just a little too far and came down on her forehead on the cement. That was the first time I thought I lost her. I died inside that day. I feel your pain RuMR.

I got into climbing years ago to get over my fear of heights, and it made a huge difference in my life. I now watch some kid with huge knuts jump off a bridge, and I get the same queasy stomach that I used to get watching climbers. Makes me think that I need to knut up and jump off a bridge. I an envious of the crazy little dude in the video, and may make that (with a few more safety backups) a goal. Are you with me Billcoe?

We have become so accustomed to scandal, that it does not even create an impact anymore. Thirty years ago, any one of these Bush scandals would have brought down an administration. I think that the impeachment of Clinton created such a bad taste in the public domain for such attacks on the sitting president, that the next couple presidents can get away with whatever they want. Scary world.

i think we should set up a "kids day" at vantage this spring. Everyone bring your kids, and make it a gear swap. One of you organizing type people oughta set something up. Thoughts?

I fully agree Billcoe

Billco, are there ethical considerations of quoting someone, and changing the quote? No problem Bill, apology accepted.

Pay is low for the duties, but if it was in Spokane I would try for it and be pretty happy to get it.

That has to be a cute job application.

I'd rap off half those "trees". I have faith in brush.

Students at a massage school take turns acting as giver and receiver to practice on eachother. Do you think this also happens at med school while learning anal winking? Or do they hire a homeless person to come in and get winked by the entire class for $20? Does the professor bend over for the final exam to make sure it was performed correctly? Just courious.

I have climbed with numerous ladies who use them and swear by them.

Well written. My appoligies to your girlfriends. e

Nancy weathered out a storm, stood strong, thus making the adventure all the more memorable in the end. This is an adventure that they are both experiencing. Good job Nancy!

I just wanted to give some credit. After PMing with ketch, and a short telephone conversation; I had the knowledge to tear into my ignition switch and make it work. The guy saved me about $250 and a few hours work. I vote Ketch and Wirlwind the Members of the Month for January! Thanks guys!

Is your question "what stock to buy", "theories of stock investment", or "how does one purchase a share of stock"?

And I guess the flip-side to my earlier argument is that if you do not intend to take personal responsibility (i.e., you know your wife is going to call rescue if you are an hour late) then there should be a duty upon you to carry an MLU, a duty upon you to leave detailed plans, lists of your gear and experience, and take whatever other steps assist in your rescue so that your failure to take personal responsibility does not later infringe upon my “right” to take personal responsibility. If you are not ready to be stuck on a mountain in bad weather, either because you do not have the training, do not have the gear, or do not have the support from home/wife/job to sit out a storm, perhaps cragging might be a better way to spend your time. Just my thoughts. Ignore them at will. e

If we as a climbing community are going to continue to preach “personal responsibility” rather than have the flatlanders impose further rules upon us (MLU’s), than I think we need to actually take the personal responsibility. From the articles, these guys were a few hours late and a girlfriend was already calling in rescue. Most of us go out prepared to cave up for a couple days if the emergency requires, and I personally do not want rescue called until I am “huge” late returning (defined by the climb I am on). If I am going to set in motion a rescue because I am a couple hours late, then I think the government is within it’s rights to impose further restrictions upon how I operate. Taking “personal responsibility” actually means taking “personal responsibility.” It means leaving information with someone indicating to not call in rescue for a couple days, as I may cave up if the weather turns; it means that I need to be ready to take care of myself so that SAR does not have to come look for my cave or check to see if I am alright. I am not blasting the two lost on Hood, as it sounds like they took good care of themselves. Merely indicating that ... blah blah blah Merely my two cents.

The wrist only ones that I tried (two different types) required holding a button to check. One moment I would come in at 90, moments later at 140, ... They were consistantly unreliable. They also only worked when I was sweating, which made it difficult for resting rates. Junk.