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great TR as usual klenke. i think the real measure of difficulty is your own. what is the most difficult climb YOU have done by the measure you're asking?

know what else makes you feel good? car exhaust.

To say the very fucking least. What does Pakistan have to say about this matter? I thought you guys were all about respecting the sovereignty of nations? Seems to me a slight deviation of course. You have no idea the logistics needed to pull this off with the current state of affairs. you should clarify who you mean by "you guys". the vast conspiracy against you? i'm just finding it interesting the power Pakistan apparently holds over the US. what ever happened to "if you ain't with us, you're against us?" The ultimate goal of the "war on terror" has definitely changed if one of the primary goals isn't to still to get the guy who masterminded the reason we went to war in the first place. a guy who apparently is still plotting against us? makes me think we are losing the war on terror. i'll leave the logistics to what it would take to take out Osama to the experts, but from an arm chair it seems like one opportunely placed predator with sufficient munitions could do the job. and yes, agree with my stalker Hugh, pics pleez.

Well, I'm sure you'll be gratified and thrilled that Obama will be reviving the George Bush "Faith Based Inititives' that Bush started pre first elections. LA times today I find it interesting that when most people evaluate Bush pre-presidential election - that is, as a Governor, he was a very good Governor by most accounts, a gov who listened to good advisors and mostly did the will of the people while maintaining a tight budget. VS Obama, who looks to have none of that as a pre-presidential candidate Senator. Bush stacks up as a much better Governor than Obama was or is as a senator. You though, believe that although Bush went to hell after he was elected, Obama will somehow magically improve. Like you, I had this hope as well until the dude played the semantic card we are discussion. The first comment on the artical I linked was this: "Oh come on folks - let's just admit it and face it -- Obama (and Axelrod) are using the Karl Rove Playbook to Getting Elected. Obama is going to turn out to be the ultimate panderer and will be known as the "Say Anything Do Anything Kid" -- he's not going to be able to fulfull any of these promises - he has the thinnest resume, the least experience, knowledge and his abilities are totally unknown and untested. So the way to win is to do what Rove did for Bush - and that's what's working for Obama. Its a shame, its sad and its sickening. But too many people keep buying into this - so they are getting the government they deserve and the rest of us stuck with it. " Hmmmmmmmmm, I would have called BS till his flip flop on public funding. Now I see him differently. sure...the thing i don't get is how you see Mccain differently from this. he has done a 180 on a number of his positions very recently. is he the "Say Anything Do Anything Geezer"? i do thing it is pretty challenging for someone who is looking for a person who is consistent about what they stand for, yet admits when they are wrong and adapts while informing that they did so. Honesty is unfortunately not rewarded in politics these days with the spin machines and a media that is more focused on entertaining than informing. i wish you the best in finding a basis for which to justify in your own mind your decision about who you're going to vote for as president. i'm just encouraging you to give them equal scrutiny for the items you appear to be focusing on right now. peace out brutha.

poli sci = guano studies?

i suggest you look into precisely what went down. the media isn't communicating this clearly (big surprise there!) i'm sure both sides are spinning it like crazy. i'm not saying he isn't a politician, and i'm not saying he isn't full of it but i think it was basically a "he said/she said" situation regarding the negotiation between the two campaigns on the matter. the one thing that didn't sit well with me though was how fast he made the decision. it sounds like he didn't give it all a chance to be brought in front of the public such that both campaigns had to make a clear choice in the public eye. but then again was there some sort of deadline they were against?

My original "sheeple" comment is for those cow-eyed morons who attend rallies, jump up and down cheering and squeeling like little girls in support of their candidate. It seems the Obama camp has many more of these types than the McCain camp. They take the propaganda at face value like the clueless suckers that they are. Obama and McCain will undoubtedly have very different administrations. You have to support one of the two. Duh. But the sheeple are embarassing at best, and dangerous at worst. History repeats itself, and one too many movie clips of cheering herds from the past comes to mind. well that changes things! enthusiasm is a dangerous thing! but then imagine if no one had it...perhaps the world would be a better place? some of those people there may not be sheeple at all, but people who recognize that supporting the apparent winner can be financially advantageous if they are correct how is that for cynicism?

btw, the HOPE i mention has nothing to do with anyone's appropriated campaign slogon, but rather with a faith in this country to turn its self around from the havoc that has been brought about by the current administration. perhaps time will tell that things were not so bad and bush jr. will be viewed as a visionary president and put on a coin or something...but the chances of that happening are pretty much null imo. and out of the two POLITICIANS you have to choose from this time around, who do you think has the better chance of doing that? i think you can make arguments for either, depending on what your point of view is. but to not vote for for either, well that is your choice...but one of these two WILL win. You can always vote for Nader, at least then you wouldn't be throwing away your vote and giving up on the country.

you're making assumptions about what i'm assuming, and you're incorrect bill. and if you do think there will be NO difference in the result of one of these two being elected...well you're the one who is mistaken. the chances of either of them turning around the train? unlikely. but if you don't have the AUDACITY to hope , then I feel sad for you and your children. as a parent i feel reponsible to at least find some glimmer of hope, even if the road might be tough. otherwise you're just a debbie downer.

unfortunately a side effect of having our form of government is the politicians. now if you don't love it, get the hell out.

anyone who believes Obama is "different" from the rest, and looks at him with wide believing eyes, is a sucker, a sheeple. so Obama and McCain are indistinguishable????? perhaps they are on some level, i would not argue that. like they are both male (not that i have confirmed that) but then there is the bit about Obama be the liberalist liberal around and about the roped in maverick conservative that seems to indicate they have a few differences.

latest from the lib media http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5275304&page=1

like you're not? you're just another sheeple. since you're on the other side of the fence you may think you're not, but you're just as wooly and ready to be chased by Polish Bob as the rest. now go reread your talking points.

ideally, yes. but i'm also partial to aesthetics unfortunately, which limits my opportunities. also my orientation is a limiting factor.

and talk about it, mmmkay? and stop ignoring the elephant in the room too. and if you're hiding any other large animals get them out, and lets talk about them.

yall don't even know what the mean of the word "is" is. what do you mean semantics? what do you mean by posting in spray? what do you singularly stand for? what is your meaning? break it down from the origin.

i think it would SUCK to rap Davis Holland. too many opportunities for getting the rope stuck vs. overhanging drop rap to the climbers *left* that is the standard way of doing it I believe.

indeed you are an internet meme. now go back to applying that spray on tan.

the human virus must survive. seek interplanetary colonization and adaptation of the human organism to other forms of being. direct all resources to genetic modification to suit alternate environments, up to and including staying on the 3rd planet. the prime directive should include, however, travel to similar planets prior to invention of the combustible engine (or just prior to invention of the liberal mind)

superfun! wow, some cc.comers have really been shelling out big $ for tickets/towing lately!

out here at microsoft for a couple days, and there are a lot of cyber douches here. spotted one with the popped collar, looking good! also a bunch of people trying to look like paul allen. kevbone, paul allen helped start Microsoft. you can read more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen also kev, here is info about the popped collar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popped_collar

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008024853_binladen30.html

I didn't read anything, but i'm pretty sure that his conclusion is the way best to maximize human well being is to invest heavily in extraplanetary travel. NN3MGN899yE

tits and beer http://www.southeastclimbing.com/routes/routes_north_carolina.htm#looking_glass