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Argh! Now he won't climb on command! Maybe someone smarter than me will insert the video loop here.

Nothing against the dude, but I am REALLY tired of watching him make the same moves over and over and over while I read Mtn proj beta. They need a larger pool of videos to cycle through that space! Heel hook, bump, deadpoint, heel hook, clip, chalk, reach - repeat ad infinitum

A toilet will require some creative thinking and a chunk of change, but it is definitely needed. Plenty of state parks have toilets that are perfectly nice. Not state park, but the toilets by the Serene trailhead are quite nice. The FS permit gestapo patrol that place frequently, which may help keep the riff raff away.

That will work your ankles more than boots but should work. Others with info on current conditions may comment.

Well, I only know one guy trying to break into the professional climbing photography scene, and he's one of the most positive people I've met. Talented too. As for the rest of the comments, take a chill pill. If Jason is only willing to pay $200 for an image, then he'll probably get an image worth only $200. That shouldn't diminish the value of all your $1000 images.

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Climbers group buys famed Index Lower Town Wall, saves it from quarry The Washington Climbers Coalition has purchased one of the state's most-famous rock climbing venues, the Lower Town Wall in Index. By Susan Gilmore Seattle Times staff reporter Related Lower Town Wall For information and photos go to www.washingtonclimbers.org/tools/ Map data ©2010 Google - Terms of UseSee more mapped stories The Washington Climbers Coalition has purchased one of the state's most-famous rock climbing venues, the Lower Town Wall in Index. Matt Perkins, secretary of the coalition, said the climbing group purchased the wall for $115,000 from a private landowner, Patricia Murphy. The group is trying to raise $300,000 for other additions to the wall, including parking, bathrooms and a walkway over railroad tracks. "Climbers have been working for more than 15 years to buy the Lower Town Wall," said Darryl Cramer, a WCC board member and guidebook author who has climbed the wall for nearly 30 years. "We've pulled it off and ensured that the Lower Town Wall will remain open to climbing forever." The climbing coalition hopes to donate the 20-acre parcel to Washington State Parks, said Perkins, and have it continue as a climbing wall. The state owns most of the property adjacent to the Lower Town Wall, including property containing the Upper Town Wall, another popular climbing destination. Snohomish County Parks is also interested in that property, said WCC. Climbers have been scaling the wall for more than 50 years, but earlier this year it was threatened with closure and conversion to a quarry. According to the climbing coalition, the cliffs and crags surrounding the town of Index have long offered some of the best granite climbing in Washington, and the Lower Town Wall is the gem of the area. It has been touted as one of the best climbing crags in the U.S., the coalition said. Last year, the owner of the property put up "no trespassing" signs because she was planning to sell the land to quarry operators, but the climbers coalition won an option to purchase the property and the owner agreed to allow climbing to continue while the group raised the money to purchase it. The group purchased the option with a loan from the Access Fund, a national climbing advocacy group. The group said it wants to name the climbing peak after civic leader and former president of KING Broadcasting Stimson Bullitt. Bullitt, who died last year, took up climbing at age 70 and climbed Index's Town Wall into his 80s. WCC plans to celebrate the purchase of the wall with a Sept. 19 party in Index.

Thanks. I'm sure I'll be whipping - hopefully from the chains at some point!

Can I get back down to the lower ledge with a 60? Thanks.

Pic of hangboard or link to page with pic of it? I might be interested.

aid is aid. but aid is climbing. nice job, Darin

At this point fires are banned in many places. Check with rangers in the area you select so you don't get a ticket or burn down the forest.

Buying a 70m is good because when one of the ends gets old or damaged you cut it off and voila, you have a perfectly good 65 or 60m rope!

Excellent! Thanks for the TR. Glad you enjoyed it and didn't have too much trouble staying on route. What a spectacular setting!

Any rock climber who hikes to Lake Serene looks up at those cliffs with wonderment akin to looking up at El Cap from the El Cap Meadows. If the rock on Mt Index were as good as the lower town wall then that face would be a world-class climbing destination....sadly, it's not. I'm hiking up there next week with my son, niece, and sister, so I may take a look. And Mr. Hands, if someone is working there it may be very laborious to take everything down and set it up all the time, particularly if there is no way in from the top. That said, this is a very public and visible area that will attract attention from non-climbing boobs and officials. If a non-climber were to go over there, mess around on the ropes, and get injured that would be bad.

Sweet! Probably easier earlier in the season with more snow cover. BTW, it's ok to

Somehow IB gets bashed a lot whereas Darrington bolted routes are well-loved. Setting aside the anti-bolt nazi movement, the objections to IB fall into several classes. 1 - It is in wilderness. Darrington is not. Mt Index is not (correct me if I'm wrong). 2 - It is reported to have been created top-down. Most Dtown routes were put up on lead. Sounds like the Index one is ground up too. 3 - The bolt placement is not to the liking of some parties (too close in places and missing an anchor up high). Dtown bolts are not quite as close as IB. No idea what's going up on Index. That's about it. People will spray all kinds of venom, but it mostly just covers these same points over and over again. ZZZZZZZ. I've climbed IB and enjoyed it. My concerns fall under 1 and 3.

Gene's an excellent partner with a great sense of humor and positive energy, who is willing to lead any scary slab pitches and carry all your gear and wash your car too. Hook him up!

I, for one, would love to climb a sport route up one of those brush-free and STEEP towers over Lake Serene. If someone is willing to put in the work to do it more 36 Volt power to them.

It will be perfect Weather. sorry I can't join you. Enjoy, Gene!

You should simul most of the route, and when you do try not to have more than 30-35m between you. Otherwise rope drag is bad. The gendarme pitches are short. I'd say single 60 is fine. You don't want to retreat off the route anyway, just go up and over.

High marks for ProFormance Rehab on Eastlake in Seattle. Helped me avoid the knife.

The problem with the walk-off is that people get tempted to cut left too soon and get cliffed out or on some "steeper than we wanted terrain". Follow the WELL-WORN trail and stay right when there are choices.

It just needs a via ferrata so everyone can know where to go.

And congrats to Ben for linking his Project too.