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call the local spay/neuter clinic and they'll take care of the problem.

Given the wonderful accounting over there at OMB, it's hard for me to trust that 3% number. 25% and 3% of what? How is that 3% tied to each individual? How does that translate into dollars per recipient? Benevolent dictatorship doesn't appeal to me, but thanks for the offer to date you. I'll pass. i'll have to find it but i recall that being an independent study. i think i explained 3% of what. if you're having reading comprehension problems, i suggest that you whine about public education or some such. umm...sugar, i don't see anywhere in that post where i tendered any offer to spend time in your company. don't forget to have that lithium prescription refilled on time. you're becoming delusional again.

But she was mean to me. That is her talent. Revel in it. thanks for noticing! it's nice to have one's talents acknowledged.

But she was mean to me. "You are so clueless if you think ANYTHING about the federal government is efficient. Give me a fucking break. The new levels of civil servants and departments, etc. will be staggering. Let's look at Medicare. When Ted Kennedy shoved that up our collective ass in the '60's, he promised that it would never grow beyond a certain level. It has now exceeded even his wettest dreams by greater than 10 fold. Stay out of politics, honey; it's not about having a big federal daddy to take care of princess. " hey greggie, the gloves are off now. no one but my dad gets to call me princess. lets talk about efficiency. medicare obviously needs some help. and this prescription drug thing is debacle but lets check out some efficiency facts. 25% of dollars spent on private health ins. by employers as well as individuals go to overhead. in medicare that number is 3%. you want to live in a democracy? then guess what i get to participate in politics. at least i'm not an apathetic, uninformed citizen who does nothing to contribute to the political landscape. just b/c you want to be an occasionally benevolent dictator doesn't change the fact we live in a democracy. have a nice day.

and as pointed out earlier, i'm pretty sure she'd beat both your asses if you hurt the dogs!

You know my answer to this. It's not the job of government to extort my individual wealth to pay for health insurance. It is, however, the purpose of federal government to make provision for national defense. How do you expect the Federal Government to do ANYTHING efficiently and cost-effectively? Private industry is the only way to go and allow people to make their own choices. Why should my taxes go to pay for insurance for someone who can well afford it on their own? the core problem is that most people can not well afford it on their own. the expenses of healthcare are out of control. private control of health ins has been anything but cost effective. it would be hard for the gov't to be less efficient. i've read a couple of studies on this topic which have pointed out that as much as 25% of the dollars spent on private ins by companies and indviduals every year goes to overhead expenses. in medicare this number is closer to 3%. it seems the gov't might be an efficient manage of healthcare.

i'd be interested to know where the 50% number comes from and what defines proper health care. i know there is a substantial portion of the US population lacking health ins. but i don't recall ever hearing 50% before. greg, why exactly is that living in a dreamworld? why is it worse to spend tax revenue on healthcare v. military?

resisting urge to spray in response to this post

but your spandex didn't get muddy right? i think greg can help you launder those ballet shoes

people, y'all care about this too much. just crank up the tunes and sing loudly/badly and don't worry about what other people think of your driving.

obviously, the tigers will go live in a foster care home. clearly neither seigried or roy are good parents. can't you see by the way the tiger lashed out that he's in emotional pain from being raised in a homosexual environment?

Uhh, the majority of us are in Seattle or PDX....that should tell you a little about how liberal we are as a general group. Greg is one of our special kids. We try to be nice to him even though he thinks poor people are lazy. I don't think all poor people are lazy. I think that many people who are poor, are that way due to choices that THEY have made about the direction of their lives. I don't see that I need to be punished because of my success and hard work just because someone decided to get drunk and knocked up at 16 and has no marketable skills because of it. hey greg, you're right. but what should those folks do from this point forward? wave a magic wand and get marketable skills and maybe a nanny when they find that magic lamp?

i use an atc and reverso. i like my atc better for some things. it handles a little smoother than the reverso if you're lowering someone and it seems like it's a little smoother to rap with. the reverso is great for having 2 people following. i like it b/c you can set it up to autolock if your second falls by adding another carabiner. i haven't had problems with skinny ropes with either one.

Straight marriage will look bad if the gay marriages outlast them.

who said it should be protected. i'd say with 50% of them failing, straight marriages isn't working so well. why protect it in it's current framework? i'm being facetious. however, i think it's something to consider before we worry about the demise of the world b/c we allow some gay folks to get married.

yep!

not always men selling there daughters. it was often an arrangements between families to merger businesses, keep peace between families, etc. there were lots of reasons. often love and god and nothing to do with it. there are many references on this if you do a quick google search. if i recall my history correctly the catholic church didn't recognize marriage as a sacrament until the thirteenth century.

i can't believe that our federal government would waste time and tax dollars on a constitutional ammendment for this. first of all, isn't marriage normally a state issue? secondly, i'm fond of the argument that marriage is a religious sacrament that's being desicrated by homosexual marriages. marriage was started long before the church or government got involved as a business arrangement between families. sorry god had nothing to do w/it. i heard some gentleman interviewed regarding the recent marriages in San Francisco. he felt that if we allowed this to go on "how would we populate the earth?" i'm sorry is underpopulation a serious problem right now? did i miss something? how is ~10% of the population having a same sex marriage going to cause the species to cease to exist?

mer- that's true enough. that dynamic seems to happen a lot. i wasn't really thinking of that in particular. i was watching a couple interact this w/e. it was interesting and got me to thinking about this topic. i think a lot of that boyfriend = ropegun dynamic forms if the girl starts climbing b/c her boyfriend climbs. if she's climbing for her own reasons then i think she'll insist on leading if she wants to. most likely, she'll push herself on to progressively harder leads. its hard enough some days to keep my head about me, i don't want issues with my boyfriend about who is leading what. hopefully that's would be worked out a little bit before the rope comes out.

Sabertooth's thread in lost and found brough this to mind. i've often wondered often gear cached at the base of a route gets stolen. Or for that matter how often stuff left in the pack at the crag disappears. anybody have experience with this kind of thing?

shoot! am i going to have to ban jon now

CLIMB: Great Northen Slab. Various routes to the anchors DATE: Sunny Sunday Afternoon. TRIP REPORT: unable to secure babysitter for the whole day so i settled for an afternoon in the sun at index. great northen slab was sunny and conveniently located. went with a major goal in mind: find a placement for my new .75 camalot. mission accomplished on the first pitch so moved on to new challenges. climbed some stuff. worked on tan. laughed. good partner. met some nice people. hi sam and jason got circled by a wayward bat who apparently couldn't find it's way back to the roof pitch. climbed some more. GEAR: a few nuts, a cam or two, rope, slings and oreos APPROACH NOTES: just the way i like it: quick and easy

do you? with what?

i remember there was a thread discussing the virtues of tying in w/a bowline vs. a figure 8. can anyone a) give me a brief summary of the pros and cons or b) find the link to that thread. i can't find it

so was sunday