billcoe

The supreme court decided that if you are sperm, that is not a human. If you do not have heart, or lungs, or a brain (like a recently fertilized Egg), that is also not human. You are not alive with out a Heart, lungs or brain. Fetus's do not have these at conception, like little hands, they have none, they will develop hands and feet.... It is, however, the POTENTIAL for life. Now if you believe that the potential for life is in fact life, and the Pope does, then wacking ones pud and sending the potential for life down the drain is a serious offense. Thus spoke the justices in the Roe V Wade case. We have legal scholars onboard, mayhaps one may now speak up and further define these facts? Regardless of what we THINK or personally FEEL, this is the law.

Then for a man pleasuring yourself is mass murder.

At the beach with his daughters Playing a riff

Pretty soon it will be a true classic!? "I sink zat you must remember that we are Climbers who Fu*k and not Fu*kers who climb"

Lost siblings separated at birth? Rupert Murdock, news magnate and billionare. Golum Got any others?

The lusty new sport of Clucking (Climbing + F*uc*ing combined) instructional video can be seen here: yk5TQFw-1E8 Apologize if this is the 2nd go round.

............Anyone?

Hot damn, looks like they're gonna give Playboy a run for it's money.

On Supertopo the other day, John Middendorf said that hands down, the Wild Things bivy was the best he'd ever tried and he'd tried a lot of them. I suspect that the IR is better based just on what folks say, you might hunt that thread down and see if he'd ever tried one of theirs. I would tend to believe it based only on some of the extreme stuff he use to do. Later someone mentions design, I'd read the whole thing to get started. Link

Ha ha! Well I did have the whole Gorge almost to myself till you folks cruised in! Surprised to see anyone myself. It's just how I roll, some day I'm gonna be Cougar food for sure as I'm almost always alone. Wife was studying for a test so I hauled the pups out of the house to romp the woods this time. I think of them as cougar appetizers. Hank the Dog Sadie May the Trailer park Floozie Both were rescue dogs, Jack Russell Terrierors

Me too. Great stuff, hope things go well for your wife. To your health--->

Pulled Trout Creek directions. I'd like to thank everyone for being so civil. I got like 6 PM's on this. There were 3 that supported leaving them, 2 that were like "sure, OK, fine, whatever it doesn't matter either way", and 1 that said probably shouldn't post them. The deciding factor was just talking it over with Ujhan as we rode up to put some tracks in the snow. He wouldn't commit one way or the other, and the discussion basically dissected the entire issue both ways to Sunday. The place is nice just the way it is. I suspect that the climbing artical will see folks showing up on road trips, hopefully, as there are 2 gov't agencies and private folks leasing as well there, any crowding which might occur gets handled OK. Risking the area going through a Gov't intervention is more than I want to be a part of even if it's a 1% possibility. If someone else chooses to put them online, I'll say "whatever", it's all good either way. ps, the mt is in prime shape right now! Better than my knee anyway!

Nate cares. Promise to carry the gear?

.....if we get a consensus....... You bet Nate, if its consensus! I'm going skiing soon, I'll check in later.

Classic TR Sobo! You guys rule! That canyon is amazing in the summer as well.

Bad Doug no biscuit! I don't think I have the skills, time or inclination to herd cats! Besides - Bills' going to be selfish this year!

It's a small place, and things generally get worked out by various folks to everyones satisfaction eventually. That climbing plan was hammer out by Jim and a group of climbers 3 generations ago. As the place was close to climbed out 20 years ago, there isn't much of a reason for a committee meeting to review new routes. Generally the ranger is OK as long as we care take the place and treat it with respect. It is a public park after all. I think Josephs extension of an existing route (which he will be pushing further up a crack system this year) was it for new stuff last year and probably next year as well. Climbers are lucky in that there is currently very professional ranger out there who gets along with everyone and is highly skilled at what he does. The birds are a Washington Fish and Wildlife issue. Until they decide to move along (like the nesting pair on El Cap that moved across the valley to a new scrape for no apparent reason) that issue is stasis. The access fund hasn't had any presence at Beacon. I think that the bolt issue you refer too is that a former AF rep showed up and put in a chain anchor at the oldest, easiest most classic route out there without asking or talking to anyone, something which most active climbers out there felt was piss-poor form. As far as Raindawg goes, I have a long rant I'll save for later. However, it boils down to the fact that to archive his sense of STYLE he would close any area that is predominantly bolted LIKE Railay in Thaland, Caeuse in Switzerland, Broux in France, Smith Rocks at Smith. Beacon is a crack filled place where bolts are not common. An addition of single one like the one Joseph popped in without talking it over much can create quite a needless stir. I thought Jim Anglin pretty much nailed it when in the middle of one of the classic Beacon Rock mud slinging wars online he said something to the effect of: "You folks need to lighten up and go do a road trip" or something like that. Edited to add, thanks for the compliment Kellie!

Thank you Jeff, I knew all that already, maybe everyone else did as well although it's nice to hear again, but there are some other issues as well which dovetail nicely. I'll PM (send a private message to) you.

Credence Clearwater Revival - it's on now. Heard it through the Grapevine. Great stuff. Saw them live in 1968 or 69.

7- 8 days on slopes, many more just wandering. But I had a long layoff as I popped out of my new ski bindings and slammed my knee, which is still in pain like 3 weeks later. As of today Edited by billcoe (02/13/08 08:20 PM) ________________________________________________________ 11 now as of today. Hit Anthony over the weekend and stayed in a cabin in the Elkhorns. Played Hookie from work this afternoon, headed up to the slopes with the lad and we turned and burned. As we were leaving, and the sluch was just starting to freeze into what was undoubtedly a hard icy bumpy horror-show, his former classmates of last week were just heading up for night skiing. Headed towards Hood River and to the Columbia Gorge Hotel for the scrupulous Prix Fixe dinner that started with Dungenous Crab soup, got better from there with the exception that they had run out of Black Butte Porter draft (Gasp, the Horror!) so I settled on an Alaskan Porter -bad idea, too heavy and smokie clashed with the Marscapone Strawberry cheesecake desert -the finish was as we left the hotel the lunar eclipse was starting, so we3 wandered on the basalt stone path next to the waterfall and hung out while the event occurred and the cold wind blew down river. And now you know.....the rest of the story.

I once went climbing with a fella who was using an 11mil rope someone has given him used, and at that time he had racked up over 200 lead falls on the thing. Not a UIAA lead fall, but going up 100 feet and falling with the pro at you knee kind of fall. He was freeing top end (now called trad) standards at the time. Ropes have gotten somewhat better, abiet thinner now. Someone on this site I still occasional go out with had bought one of his lead lines used off of ebay. Rope looks pretty good too. I tend to be over protective and climb within the Mfg recommended time frame, give or take a couple of years. According to the artical there, which seems to not make mention of true lead falls, if it the looks good, shrug your shoulders and soldier on. If the rock is share however, it might be prudent to use double rope technique, or just spend the $ and get a new rope, which is the safe and smart way to go IMO if you have the money.

She moved to Florida with ZimZam today.

Looking at Moofs sweet homemade hanging system has me wondering if any of you has seen or tried out this companies stuff? Link to Gear Storage Systems

I was thinking something along the same lines. In fact, if you will stop posting I will stop read your crap.

$3000 $5000.00 for the hand. It set the house record for most times wacking off.