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Great stuff, need more naked people climbing pics like here: Link Baring that, more regular climbing pics.

i imagine you couldn't find your license, eh? Hah Hah Ivan! Nice catch. JB doesn't read anything other than the first 3 words of anyone's post, nor will he click on links you provide and rarely will provide factual links to back up his words: then he decides what kind of antagonistic crap he'll spew via a response. I figured that out a long time ago. Of course, this is a real clear and obvious test, this thread. Best just ignore him. ______________________________________________________________ For myself, I thought I would start remove my wife as a kindness since I love her so. However, the pic was pretty good and a bit of an upgrade, so I thought I'd better leave it alone for now till she decides if she would rather leave it up there. JUST KIDDING! My wife looks great. You just have to click it first to see the joke.

This is called "French Style" I believe. Well known in the remote regions of the Himalayas.

In Yosemite, where there are lots of eyes (and wildlife biologists) for some unknown reason, the very same birds that had been nesting on El Cap for a few years, moved across the valley...didn't leave a forwarding address either Could be something to do with prey becoming accustomed ??? I know a couple of years ago you added some gravel and support to the scrape area on big ledge to make it world class bird accommodation, so it's not an issue with living in a crappy home. Maybe the bird shit just accumulates enough that they move on? They still sit up there on occasion. Anyway, maybe we can engage Ben to co-ordinate some spotters this winter. The birds are around, you'll see them go flying by here and there all winter and spring, eventually you see some young ones....I think JH is correct that they moved to the East Side: yet as they say: "Your trading results may vary. No representation is being made blah blah, ... Past performance is not indicative of future results " Anyway, Cobra, I hike that trail to the base all the time. I often come back that way from skiing, if I have any energy left, I run or walk to the top (@20 min up and back) but if my quads are toast I love to do a quiet hike to the south side base and just hang out. I find it to be a very spiritual, unique and special place. This is a common occurrence for me.

Yup, and 100% sober as well. I like "Adams Crack" for the name.

Need your help and ideas to name this route. Adam spent lots of time cleaning this line which he led ground up Saturday in fine style. Here he is taking a 2nd victory toprope lap, sans shoes and chalkbag while buddy Jesse who accompanied us took these great tasteless tasteful art photos. We need your suggestions with a name as my suggestion of "Dirty Crack" was not well received for obvious reasons. What do you have for a route name? You can tell from the 3 layers of clothes I have on that it was colder than a witches ti**y out, snow was still on the ground. Just an inspired thing I guess. These guys are OFF THE HOOK funny! Both of their wive's are not around for what ever reason so it was play time. I was laughing my ass off all day long at one thing or another. Wore and old man out I'll tell ya. Damn I look old there. This thing just happened so quick. One moment we're discussing the stone nudes calender Link which morphed into something which might have resembled this conversation but I wasn't paying much attention: Dude 1: "They're always girls" Dude 2: "Gorgeous too" Dude 1 or 3 "How come guys don't do that?" Other dude "Chicken I guess" "Hey, I'm not chicken" "Uhh, sure dude".............. whoosh, off go the clothes! Jesse: "Awesome!.... I'm taking pictures" I'm like WTF? Huh? Not even shoes? OK, on belay (check your own knot). ps, real nice line. It's a total gear route,@ 90-100', no bolts on it or on top @ 5.7, I suspect within a year or 2, it will be the most popular easy and safe gear route in the PDX metro area.

Re-reading Josephs first post...the crux of repairing this issue is truly what he says, not more, not less. If the birds nest, they nest. If not, then we need to get it together and document it so that Dave Anderson can approve an opening if there is no reason for the closure. Peregrines are truly a unique national treasure. I think perhaps many of you feel that the Fish and Wildlife people go way overboard on this, often act with little or no science behind their reasoning, and that it hits us more than the people who are really tossing Gatoraid bottles down off the trail and potentially killing them, the multitudes of hikers who feel no effect. Sure those folks don't get inconvenienced at all...hmmmm, where was I going... Oh, we need to be on this this winter with scopes and triangulation so that we can pin the location down. Part of the problem is if they fly around the rock they disappear who knows where. I do not believe they were on the south face the last 2 years, but they may have been. Joseph can't do it all himself but he has been. We should put a person on the East and West sides with binocs and scopes and on the top as well. Perhaps Jh or someone can co-ordinate and schedule some folks for this so we have a better picture? If they nest on the South Side, then lets hope they populate to the point where they're as plentiful as the crows are now, and the rock will be open again, or lacking that, if they are not there,it gets opened as well. Now, I have a season ski pass, but wash out early and can be there at 1pm any weekend day. Maybe about March we should be working on something like this? One more thing: the rangers are our allies. They love the park as much or more than we do. They want this park to run smoothly and be open for everyone, including the birds, they have pressures we don't even want to consider. If they need our help in any way, we should not hesitate to give them all that we can if they need it. If our brothers are sneaking under the rope and climbing on the East Side, West side or where ever, lets do an immediate private intervention/reality check with the offender(s) and get that stopped. Stop talking bad about the birds too, even if it's in jest or a moment of anger, they belong here at least as much as we do, and they need our help.

Ditto what Ken the gimp says on your efforts JH. (Ken, ya go away and 15 min later you're out of shape!) I never heard about people under the East Face last year. Guess I have to get out more. I don't know why people would be climbing over there, or who would be there, but they would be easy to get them down and fine them once you saw them over there. They couldn't go anywhere. To me - closing the trail, so that everyone is penalized, is a bit like closing the bathroom permanently for everyone because some idiot spray painted a gang sign in the men's room. It's a park, there are lots of good apples and an occasional worm in a rotten one. They have thieves break into cars in the parking lot: should the lot be closed just because a single bad apple broke the law? I do not believe so. I have high regard for Erik Plunket, head Ranger. He is professional, smart and hardworking. He's a credit to the park service and we're lucky to have him and not some mean spirited petty tyrant or worse. I'll try and get a free moment and call him later this week to see if we can get the trail open again. I saw this last year and it cranked me, but I didn't say anything, I wish I had. I know that the last time the climbers got all incentivized, they were making trips to Olympia (not that I have time or inclination for this) and talking to the legislators and head folks. They got good results though. However, that was before the internet was invented, and maybe it's just easier to yell on the net about it but not do anything real? If I could make a small recommendation to anyone else considering this idea, and I hope that you all call to discuss it and register an opinion as well: PLEASE, get your shit somewhat together first, and treat Erik with the respect which you would expect and deserve if you were in his shoes (ie, no yelling, slobbering into the phone or making angry mentally challenged type of noises sort of like some of the wording appears to be above:-). The park number is (509) 427-8265

Yup, the butte gets the least sun, so that might have to be at the back of the list. Jimmys may be open too, I almost headed up that road Sunday on the way back from the Mt to check. Pete's would have been do-able, there's that little snow. Sometimes Pete's has ice form on it, if you ever go to Meadows, come down the road to Hood River and you can check. I didn't see any yesterday as I went past, I was trying to look, too warm last week and too dry generally I expect.

Damn that's a good lookin' Boa Dave! It definitely upgrades your rack:-) Now you have to look at accessorizing and change out to a green rope, chartreuse shoes and blue hot pants. Great to hear the Silent Partner is getting pressed into service too. BTW, In my opinion, I think that's so wrong that the trail to the south side is getting closed....for no apparent reason. I was going to hike down there yesterday coming back from skiing just to feel the vibe and got cock blocked by something like a massive "ROAD CLOSED - GO AWAY OR BE ARRESTED" sign.

Kenny in Da house! Hola Ken, glad to see you around, hope those Seattle dudes aren't kicking your ass too hard and you're getting some great laps in. I think we're all just shocked into stupidity that Dave put you in the snow... You SURE it was Dave? ps, you people really climb that choss?

Beacon is closed, but I hear there may be a new bolt ladder at Broughtons which you might be able to free. Broughtons is sheltered from the wind and stays warmer this time of year is perhaps no small thing as well weather dependent. Link link

Nice work! Thanks for sharing too.

I'm good with it, climbers should shun government intervention in rescues.....shuuunnnnn! Climbers need to take care of their own, that's what Portland Mt Rescue trains for. If someone screws up and needs a chopper, they or their insurance can pay for lifeflight from the Timberline parking lot. If you want the gov't to help you all the time, and for others to HAVE to pay for our own bad choices, then they get to dictate when and where you and I will go. I reject that. Climbers who want the choppers for free remind me of that Danny Devito character in that Ken Keasey movie, One Flew Over the Cookoos Nest". "I WANT MY CIGARETTES NURSE RATCHET" It's time we grew up and stand on our own 2 feet. Through independence comes freedom. Freedom to climb in the hills as we see fit. WHEN we choose, WHERE we choose. With freedom comes responsibility. And the pain of failing for making a bad choice, or the exhilaration and memories or reaching high and of pulling it out. Let freedom ring boyz. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74Yj2Dn8M8&feature=related Godspeed to the boys serving, hope they stay safe during this rotation and all return healthy and happy to their loved ones and the best country on earth soon.

What STP says. My wife had never seen me yell at the TV till I heard Bush declaring "invasion on". The fact that we got lucky doesn't change the F*ed up/short circuit/internationally illegal/pissoff the world- process that got us in there. BTW, the 9 billion is basically a continuation of the Bush doctrine bailout with an extra billion or so tossed in and more restrictions on the recipients isn't it. Fairweather on Feck - Man, I wish I was able to do that. Sigh...

....who's selling some slightly used hangers...?

Did I call that or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOW ME THE MONEY JERRY! HA HA ! YA RACIST!

Your post is demeaning as hell Prole. Put yourself in others shoes for a moment will ya. I'd like to think that we as a country are generally beyond that kind of crap...maybe some of us are and you and a few pointy white hat idiots aren't. Here's to the future where you can let your inner racist lay dormant. I'll bet money on 2 things: 1st, you don't think what you said is racist. 2nd) if you show this post to any person of color they will say it is a racist post.

I picked 3 pm cause that's when I started and everyone is like me....right?

OMG, I stand corrected! Thank you sir:-)

It sounds as if plenty of the villagers have already taken up the torches so I wouldn't expect Monday to be anything less than bolt free based on what I see here. I'd think that carefully unscrewing the bolts and pulling them and leaving clearly visable holes for 3-4 weeks and then patch the holes might be least destructive in case they come back and re-bolt, but I guess that call will made by whomever gets there first. Be nice to touch base with them on this before the whole bolt-in bolt-out cycle gets going.... Take care all! PS, are there any current community service projects (sketchy 1/4'er's being replaced on Monkey etc etc) being done right now that these could be donated for? That has a certain symmetry...

This troll is 3 years old Marc...still there.

Given the proximity to existing routes, they should go as soon as possible. Otherwise, it may be like herpes and it will spread fast. My earlier post was thinking that they had a clear blank line. The only question is this: is it better to yank em and patch immediately, or wait and patch it later. If you answer patch now, suppose these folks show up, ignorant of this discourse, and re-drill? At least if they see holes there, and put more bolts back in (to the same holes), by the 2nd time their stuff gets yanked, they will have gotten clued in if no one has seen them to discuss this. Hmmm, but Bryan did converse with them. Bryan, what do you think is the best course of action? Yank and patch or yank and patch later.

Isn't 7 or more called a "litter"?

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