billcoe

This damn cat isn't wearing any clothes ya know!?

ps, don't stick your thumb into a munter while rapping with one

Don't put your thumb into a Munter Hitch while rappelling with one.

I'm sorry to see such things. "Vy can't ve chust climb !" Good to see you posting Mike, but it would be better if these reports from Utah had some topless Mormon girl pictures on here instead of this....jus' sayin'.... ps, there is a length discussion going 25 pages on this subject if anyone wants to fire it BACK up. CLICK THIS LINK

Good times for sure between the beer and seeing lots of bros!!! John and Marcus looked to be having a great time as they worked their asses off. Graham from Cilogear was working the silent auction table and looks to be doing an annual weird shaving thing that coincides with the fest. Last year he shaved half his beard, this year it was Tiger Stripes in it.....hopefully someone with enough sense to bring a camera will put some pics on here and include the results and some competitor shots. Thanks to all who put in the time to make this happen, and to the Portland Rock Gym for donating place!

Ahh, it's an issue of scale then. OK. As long as he only threatens to "Exterminate" a few, and it's the right few, you are supportive. If he goes on the radio then and only then would you feel it is wrong. Got it, thanks for the clarification. For myself, I don't feel that way. But at least some of it bothers you, for the rest posting on here, they don't seem too concerned if Rush Limbaugh or any other (right wing) talk show host gets whacked it appears.

Me either, however, didn't you just totally ignore Choada boys threats to exterminate Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh?

less than 11,000+ posts:-) LOL

Our President has handled himself with dignity and decorum through a difficult primary and later strident and ignorant right wing harpy attacks. It's been a great thing to watch his restraint and skill in response to those. Starting from when Hillary started the underhanded personal attacks in the primary and Barak refused to buy in. He advised his workers to not get personal and to resist attacking personalities. He even fired a campaign worker who, despite having read the "don't be a dick message", decided on his own to send out an underhanded return nastygram. The man has been faithful to his words in that sense, and we are all the better for it. Ignoring people like Beck, Savage and the others, who start off with false suppositions and end with an angry personal tirade or attack: would be the best thing we can do as citizens if we are tired of that kind of bullshit. Ignore them. When we see a Prick like Pete Wilson act out like a 3 year old, write your congressmen and senators. Pick a position YOU feel strong about, and write your them as well. Ignore the idiots who are like Dogs barking at the caravan in the desert.... the caravan continues.

Posts don't mean shit, who has the most photos? ha ha, bitches!!!!!

Portland Rock Gym September 26th 2009 ! Shit, I have a climb scheduled. If things go well I may pop in later on, curl up next to the keg and take a nap on the floor like last year during the slide show. It too often goes without saying that you guys kick ass for putting this on: that slide show last year kicked ass too even if the sound sucked (old peoples hearing issues probably). Thanks again Wayne. ps, despite the free beer joy (suspect John bought it?) just a reminder to all to bring some extra $ if nothing else then for raffle tickets. For myself, I'd like to donate maybe a $100 for Index and this is as good of a spot to do it as any.

Hola Big wall Rick (Rick from Hood River formerly BZ Corner, Wa ?) This kind of thing always seems to get wanked on all over the internet, going on and on and on. So I was thinking of not posting this, but maybe, just maybe, there's something to be said for hoping it falls off (even with planned encouragement) with no one below and that it doesn't hurt or kill anyone. Loose rock is part of Beacon.

I'm stoked to see the 3 month Trip report wherein you did significant new first ascents in some strange spots like a ground up FA on Devils Tower....WTF?!!! COME ON WHERES THE PICTURES OF THIS FINE SH*T!!!!!! Whens the ice fest? I'd love to be there, nice of the Portland Rock Gym to donate the place so everyone can tool the walls for them. The place needs some splinters:-) Focus hound, focus:-0

Better to just leave them be, besides, going to pull them would result in a trespassing fine. They might abandon this RR line and then we can get back on it. For now, we should just not walk past the NO trespassing signs.

When pasting the URL of your picture in, just make sure that your address ends in .jpg Pilchuck.

looking for a place for this too....

OMG! Sick. _________________________________________________ I've been looking for a place for this as well. Da Boyz: Geoff and MikeR maybe this is not the best place for it though....

Thanks jb - heres the whole thing for posterity: All that Acorn stuff is nothing in comparison. Nothing. This is staggering..... Listening to Sibel Edmonds by Philip Giraldi, September 24, 2009 Sibel Edmonds, the FBI Turkish translator turned whistleblower, is the most gagged person in the history of the United States. The Justice Department under George W. Bush’s Attorney General John Ashcroft twice silenced her using the rarely employed state secrets privilege. The government and the mainstream media have presented a united front against her, calling her a "kook" and a liar, even though the gag order in itself confirmed that she had a tale to tell about massive government corruption that was all too credible and would embarrass Democrat and Republican alike. Sibel’s day in court came in early August when she was allowed to give a detailed deposition under oath in connection with a lawsuit filed in Ohio. Her deposition, naming names and providing corroborating details was predictably ignored by the mainstream media but was a sensation on the blogosphere. It led to my conducting an interview with Sibel for The American Conservative magazine, which appeared this week. Why is Sibel’s tale important for every American and why is it being ignored by our elected officials and the Fourth Estate? The story is important because it is about massive and systematic corruption of our elected officials and senior bureaucrats with the active connivance of the media. Worse, the corruption was carried out by agents of several foreign governments and involved nuclear secrets stolen from American defense laboratories and military bases that were, in some cases, sold to the highest bidder. Some of the congressmen involved are now retired and working for those very same foreign governments that stole America’s secrets. To those who claim that Sibel Edmonds is a fraud and that she is propagating lies for reasons of her own I would observe the following: Sibel has been interrogated by two US Senators, by the Justice Department’s Inspector General’s Office, and by suspicious fact checkers working for the television news program 60 Minutes, for the Times of London, and for Vanity Fair. She has been found to be a credible witness by everyone who has taken the time to talk to her and no one has ever been able to disprove any aspect of her story. Could it be that Sibel Edmonds is a clever and possibly even diabolical fraud artist who has manipulated me and others? Of course it’s possible, though I would point out that she has convinced a number of skeptics that there is substance to her allegations. I for one spent twenty years in Army intelligence and the CIA listening regularly to scoundrels, liars, and thieves spin their tales. If Sibel Edmonds is a fabricator, she is a damned good one. I would also note that there is a fundamental flaw to the criticism of Sibel, which is that she claims that every single statement made by her is backed up by actual documents in FBI investigative files dealing with the activities of foreign agents who were suborning our elected officials and senior bureaucrats. She has even provided the numbers of the files. At the end of the day, either the files and the evidence they contain are there or they are not. If they are not, then the government should make its case publicly that fraud is being committed by Sibel and her supporters and take whatever legal action they consider to be appropriate. I would suggest that the silence from the government over this matter in itself confirms that the allegations are true in every detail. Why does no one want to look into Sibel’s accusations? I would guess that it is partly because her tale involves Washington’s most powerful foreign policy lobby, that of Israel, and also the less powerful but undeniably important lobby of Turkey. But it is also due to the fact that both Democrats and Republicans are the evildoers in her story as well as senior officials in the Pentagon and State Department who served in both Democratic and Republican administrations. It is a can of worms that no one wants to touch, which is precisely why it should be opened and examined if the public is every to regain faith in government. Some of Sibel’s allegations would be extraordinary at any time and are almost hard to believe. She reports that the CIA was covertly supporting al-Qaeda linked groups in the Balkans and central Asia right up until 9/11. She tells how a reporter at the New York Times was fed material by senior state department official Marc Grossman who was at the time taking bribes from Turkish contacts while alerting Turkish and Pakistani intelligence officers to the fact that Valerie Plame’s company Brewster-Jennings was a CIA cover unit engaged in preventing nuclear proliferation. Sibel names Pentagon insiders who obtained personnel information on government employees and contractors so that they could be targeted by foreign intelligence officers. She reveals that congressman Tom Lantos was openly passing classified information on to the government of Israel and that Israel would take what it wanted and then pass the remainder on to the Turks. Sibel describes how highly sensitive information from US defense labs would be collected by foreign graduate students carefully inserted into the labs then sold to the intelligence services of countries like Pakistan that were developing their own nuclear weapons. She details how one married Democratic congresswoman who was bisexual was targeted by Turkish agents and filmed being seduced by a woman who was provided for her, possibly to enable blackmail to secure the congresswoman’s cooperation. Sibel’s tale includes descriptions of how other congressmen received bribes and illegal political contributions and were rewarded by being given well-paying jobs ever after, with several of them now working for Turkish companies or as lobbyists for Turkey. She confirms that the Bush Administration was seeking to attack Iraq long before the twin towers fell, detailing how before 9/11 several Pentagon officials discussed with the Turkish government the invasion and division of Iraq into "spheres of influence" between Washington and London. The talks broke down when Ankara decided that it wanted its own slice of the pie. And no one seems to care. Congressman Henry Waxman, formerly chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform committee, seemed interested in Sibel Edmonds’ story and appeared willing to open hearings, but his enthusiasm vanished at some point and he refused to return her calls. Was it because Israel was involved that Waxman developed cold feet? Was it because some of the traitors were Democrats? Quite possibly a combination of the two, though it is only my speculation. The current chairman of the committee Edolphus Towns has displayed no interest in the Edmonds case in spite of the Obama Administration’s pledge to bring change to government. It is clear that if the citizens of the United States are every actually to hear what Sibel Edmonds has to say it will be because the people demand it. It is time to call one’s congressman and ask "What about Sibel Edmonds?" It is time to write letters to the newspapers and television news media demanding that her story be told. If there is ever to be even a minimum of accountability and a restoration of some measure of integrity in government it has to start somewhere. Why not start by listening to Sibel Edmonds?"

The right wing Wackjobs pretty much STFU and duck their heads in the sand when it comes to high treason...interestingly enough, neither the Bush admin (no surprise) NOR the Obama admin seems moved to do shit about this. Maybe a few charges and jail terms for people like Ashcroft will straighten it out....but I don't have high hopes that the Obama folks will do it.

edited my post with link while you were posting.

If I haven't taken the time to thank you for your recent very well researched and thought provoking posts, please accept my apologies for my laziness jb. ....And my thanks as well. Regards Bill

dude, it's thursday - wtf else are you gonna do on your lunch break? It involves a Towel at Beacon. Sorry, no camera.

"A Small Benediction There is no Frank anymore, and hasn’t been for some time, meaning we are here discussing the memory of Frank. Yes, there’s the Frank in a few books and pictures and a grave in Chamonix holding remains which once held Frank. But really, once I realize (again) Sacherer is gone and Kamps and Pratt to name a few who most influenced me, I realize they all are only in my mind now. Then it dawns on me they were just so when they were alive. These climbers, all climbers, are only our view of them, the intake and processing of the talks, the movement on rock, the laughs, the glory, the bickering, the ranking of feats, the unraveling of how they were and why -- all only fleeting sparks between minds working just as now, here, on this thread, back and forth. It takes some time to grasp there really are no climbers or even climbs other than our making, naming and assessing of each, our passing along witnessing all to our joy, wonder and sorrow. All is only low voltage firing of neurons between our ears, tiny electronic summaries of the earthly formations we climb upon, of the people with whom we climb, of even our selves moving along as before a mirror, time all the while clicking. A man named Frank we knew and now remember ended at a little square of ground in Chamonix which, Jan said, she and Frank’s family have not yet been able to visit. And yet here we all are making the only visit we ever can make – in our minds. And so my small benediction: let us be most humbled, thankful and awestruck at the prize of consciousness, the sunny days on what we call rock and mountains with others we call friends, the noble globe itself only a dot in the vast swirl of matter and time, in the great physics of it all Frank pondered, the same which pounds and baffles each of us under a clear night sky. And there, looking up, perhaps I am not alone making a quiet vow to hold more tightly to good friendship and love before sleeping Frank’s sleep. Tom Higgins LongAgo " This thread is what you guys want to accomplish before you sleep Franks sleep?