Buckaroo

So what do you believe then? Most of the ship on the Orwell TV? Or the corporate NYT? They spin the biggest conspiracy theories of them all.

Depends on the freezing level and also on how much snow. Probably don't need snowshoes but you might want points and an axe just in case.

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I really like the DMM wallnuts, another example of a very refined product.

whoa! that goat weighed approx 350 pounds, no wonder he got the better of the dude. I've seen lots of goats, but never anything close to that big.

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Nothing but keylocks for me full set of Wild Country Helium wired keylocks. Everything on these, cams/nuts/draws. Nothing beats the performance, light weight, large opening, and keylock for smoothness. They broke new ground on their forging process. Every time you think something as simple as a carabiner is fully refined someone takes it up another notch. BD Positron keylock lockers, BD Vaporlocks for the belay device. Have a few Trango Superfly lockers, use them for the alpine only cuz they have such a small opening. thinking about getting a set of Metolius FS wiregates for the alpine because they are so light. all kinds of slings, Including Mammut and the Wild Country skinnys, they are a little thicker than the Mammut. Use a quad length skinny sling as a cordalet, it's not quite as long as a standard cordalet but because it's so skinny the knot uses less length so it evens out. When I aid at the crags have a full set of mixed beater beaners because of the abuse. For big wall like Yos I have a set of Petzl Spirits

I have an idea. take this jpg and load it as wallpaper on a friends phone while they're not looking.

Heads up. The meth heads are hitting the cars at the Index lower wall parking lot. Plenty of glass on the ground and while I was there these two shifty grungy looking guys were obviously casing the cars in broad daylight. So as soon as they left a local climber comes over and says look out, those are local meth heads. bummer, Index didn't used to be this way. Oh and a side note, finally climbed up to the ledge at the top of Godzilla, first time since the big block came down. After looking at the ledge I really don't think that block came down by itself. I think it was jacked, probably by climbers, probably by climbers jacked up on meth.

In order of preference Califa Colorado WA. I think WA has the best climbing with CA a close second, the only best climbing in CO is waterfall ice. That said there's still a lot of good climbing in CO. I did Blanca Peak in winter back when I lived in NM, really pretty area in the SW corner, a dry cold, -40F wasn't too bad. CO has the best weather followed closely by CA, and WA of course bringing up the rear.

If you're just going for a couple of weeks take a car. The parking is sometimes difficult but not impossible. the shuttle does not run to cookie cliff but there's always parking spots along the road Sept is the best time, it's cooled off a little and the crowds have died down a little because the kids are back in school. Why Upper Pines? The place to be if you're climbing is Camp 4. All the climbers are there, good place to get beta, a partner, or whatever related to climbing. WARNING, the black bears will break into your car if there's food inside OF ANY KIND. They will smell cookies in a factory sealed bag in the trunk. They will break out a side window or peel down the window frame, rip out the back seat and get the cookies out of the trunk. "No food" means no toothpaste etc or anything with a possible food scent. If you eat in your car it's wise to clean it out before departure. There's even known cases of headrests getting torn up if someone used overly scented shampoo. I distinctly remember dozing during the night and hearing the dooozzzeee of another window breaking. There's always glass in the parking lots, and the grown bears teach their cubs how to break into cars. Friend of mine was there for a couple months and got lazy or forgot and left a sandwich in his Toyota van. They peeled the window frame down and stole the sandwich. He had to drive 120 miles without a door to the wrecking yard.

The best is probably the Enchantments but it might not be described as "mellow" going up or down Aasgard pass. Everyone in the party would want to be athletic. But it's perfect for the 2-3 day range and you do a loop, go in and come out at different trailheads that are on the same road. The scenery can't be beat, although camping permits are very problematic. Something near Cascade pass, but it would be an out and back on the same trail in 2-3 days, and there's lots of bears that time of year. The Wonderland trail on Rainier, (just part of it) the North side is nice, start at Sunrise and go to Carbon River or Mowich Lake in 2-3 days. Lots of goats and close up with glaciers. Keep in mind this was an unusually high snow winter/spring, places that don't usually have snow may have snow crossings into the fall that you need to be prepared for. Or check before hand with the rangers if it's clear or not.

Any wall that takes more than a day to climb by an average climber. Any wall that requires a bivy on the wall.

I've run laps on the Tooth with a bunch of mounties on it. It's good training for objective hazard.

but you can't get into the details of why. Why do you disagree. You stand on the side of the corporate warmonger government but you can't defend the details. Once the facts and figures are presented you are nowhere to be found.

All E-rock has is personal bashing. He hasn't contributed one iota to the actual debate.

Uhh hurr durr, that's exactly what you did, name calling without arguing any points. Unless your point is to name call the individual. You surely haven't addressed any of the points I made.

So tell us KK, who own's the internet? Who controls it? I can tell you who owns and controls the TV. you are laughing at your own ignorance.

""big bro is watching you on the internutz, Buckaroo!"" merely being observed has nothing to do with independence. the Orwellian prisoner can observe the free man 24-7. Doesn't do jack crap. So what's your "point"? (LOLZ!) still ZERO hard evidence presented by the Orwell TV theory promoters

""and NSA monitoring (not to mention what happens abroad), and ISP and application provider 'throttling', and...."" monitoring is not even remotely the same as ownership like the TV. Monitoring doesn't change anything, it's just monitoring. Throttling is a problem but it's not fully instituted yet and will never be until there is one world government. Too many independent countries for that to happen at this time. still ZERO hard evidence presented by the Orwell TV theory promoters

""The innernutz is independent like public access TV is independent. We used to love watching the evangelical preacher with a light case of Down's Syndrome on that channel""" so because there are nuts out there means everyone independent is automatically nuts. I can't follow your "logic" Seems like all you guys have is ad-hom. When the going gets tough that's your go to strategy. still ZERO hard evidence presented by the Orwell TV theory promoters

attack of the strawmen ""funny...seems like half the folks posting in this thread are living in their parent's basement"" the information on the internet is independent, the individuals involved have nothing to do with this discussion Of course all you TV sheeple have to try to make it personal because you have ZERO argument when it comes to the facts. still ZERO hard evidence presented by the Orwell TV theory promoters

Haven't seen one single post on this thread where a supporter of the governments conspiracy theory has posted one single piece of hard evidence supporting the Orwell TV's story. the distinction between the TV and the internet is huge. The TV is wholly owned by only 5 defense connected corporations. The internet is independent.