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  1. For only one reason. The owner was incompetent. He would've failed regardless. I found the timing interesting with the failure of Swallow's Nest. Even if the owner was incompetent, why did the store continue for so long until REI built the bohemoth? the move downtown was probably the final nail in the coffin (i assume higher rental cost and losing proximity to north end customers)
  2. high drama in the himals, wealth, mud-slinging by former partners (ok, ok, not that unusual), extra-marrital affair, yeti sighting, ..... could it get any juicier?
  3. Messner article The mystery of killer mountain Reinhold Messner is the greatest living mountaineer, the first person to climb Everest without oxygen. But did he leave his brother to die alone on an expedition more than 30 years ago? Tim Luckhurst recounts those events and reveals Messner's latest quest: to clear his name 20 June 2003 Nanga Parbat is the ninth highest mountain in the world. It stands 27,000ft above sea level, its peak towering in forbidding isolation more than 22,000ft above the arid land of the Indus Valley at the western end of the Himalayan range. It is a daunting ascent, imperilled even during the summer months by unstable glaciers, ferocious storms and avalanches. Herman Buhl, the first mountaineer to conquer it, did not reach the summit until 3 July 1953, more than a month after Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay scaled Mount Everest. Nanga Parbat translates literally as Naked Mountain. It is known to climbers as "The Killer". In the years before Buhl placed his flag at the top, 31 mountaineers lost their lives attempting it. Next year, Reinhold Messner, a 58-year-old German-speaking Tyrolean Italian member of the European Parliament, will set out to climb the peak. Messner knows the risks. His fame does not rely on his status as an elected representative of the Italian Green Party. He is a legendary mountaineer. The American climber Jon Krakauer has said, "Messner is to climbing what Michael Jordan is to basketball." If you prefer footballing analogies, think David Beckham, Zinedine Zidane and George Best rolled into one. Last month, he was honoured alongside Sir Edmund Hillary during the celebrations to mark 50th anniversary of the conquest of Everest. Crown Prince Paras of Nepal pinned a medal to Messner's chest because, among many stupendous feats at high altitude, Messner was the first man to climb the world's highest mountain without the aid of oxygen. Messner has climbed Nanga Parbat before. In June 1970, he became the first and only climber to do it via the perilous Rupal Flank. The feat nearly killed him. During the climb Messner lost seven toes and several fingertips to frostbite. He also lost some- thing more precious: his brother Gunther. On the descent from the summit both brothers were on the brink of total exhaustion and Gunther was suffering obvious symptoms of altitude sickness. They decided to make their way off the mountain via the less steep but uncharted West Face. Reinhold went ahead to scout a route through crevasses that blocked their path. When he turned back to guide Gunther to safety, Reinhold could find no trace of his sibling, only the remnants of a catastrophic avalanche that, after a full day of searching, he concluded must certainly have swept Gunther to his death. In 1971, Reinhold returned to Nangar Parbat to search for his brother's body. He found nothing. That, at least, is Reinhold Messner's version. And for three decades, as his reputation has grown and his wealth with it, nobody really doubted it. Then, last year, two German climbers, Hans Saler and Max von Kienlin, signed an affidavit questioning whether Gunther Messner ever reached the summit of Nanga Parbat. They went public after Reinhold Messner published a definitive version of the doomed adventure in a book called The Naked Mountain: Brother Death and Loneliness. In separate books of their own, Saler and Von Kienlin suggest that, far from losing his brother on the way down, Reinhold abandoned him before making the final assault. The implication is that Reinhold Messner pressed on for glory, leaving his exhausted sibling to a lonely and inevitable death. Saler and Von Kienlin were members of the Messner brothers' team during the 1970 climb. They did not accompany Reinhold and Gunther on the final bid for the summit, but they claim that Reinhold's version of events does not correspond with what they witnessed from lower down the mountain. They suggest that Reinhold abandoned his ailing brother to relieve himself of encumbrance and commanded Gunther to make his own way back down the mountain, via their original route and in conditions which rendered it almost impossible. Gunther either died attempting to retrace his steps or froze to death in his tent. If Reinhold's account was accurate, they argue, he would have asked for help in his search from two other climbers he encountered on the mountain that day. It is an utterly damning allegation. If true it would breach the code of loyalty and mutual support on which mountaineers depend for their lives as well as the human bond between brothers. Reinhold Messner cannot let it stand. He has denied it emphatically. This week, he told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that the allegations made by Saler and von Kienlin are part of a "smear campaign". He said: "I will find my brother even if it takes 20 years." Hence the return trip planned for next summer. Messner will use metal detectors in a bid to locate his brother's steel crampons. Finding them could lead him to the body. "If I find my brother where I say he was," he explained, "the whole thing is proved." For further evidence, he has persuaded a friend, the Slovenian mountaineer Tomas Humar, to retrace the route on which Saler and Von Kienlin allege Gunther was abandoned. Climbers acknowledge Reinhold Messner as the greatest living mountaineer. He has climbed all 14 of the world's tallest peaks without using oxygen and is the author of several books about his sport, including Climbing Without Compromise - the bible of pure alpinism, in which mountaineers reach their target without artificial help or hired porters. There is no doubt that Reinhold was close to his brother. They had shared many difficult ascents in the Alps. If he had not had complete faith in Gunther it seems implausible he would have chosen him as his companion for the most demanding leg of the assault on Nanga Parbat. Ed Douglas, editor of The Alpine Journal, says: "I don't think anyone will ever know exactly what happened up there. Reinhold Messner was completely strung out. He and his brother had nothing to drink. Their brains were addled by hypoxia. He went back. He found fresh avalanche damage and it clearly devastated him: it was a defining moment. He has described himself as being close to death, on the edge of total collapse. Ultimately you only have the word of the people involved. These allegations have been made before, but I don't think anyone outside the German climbing fraternity would credit the story that Reinhold deliberately abandoned Gunther. The tragedy clearly caused him a lot of pain and it provoked a real rift with his father." Messner has confirmed that. He once explained: "On Nanga Parbat I understood the reality of my own death. I had not eaten or drunk anything for days. I was hallucinating. My toes were black from frostbite and my brother was lost in the avalanche... My father blamed me for Gunther's death. Gunther and I did so much together. It was difficult for my father to understand what it was like up there." "What happened would not be unprecedented," says Douglas. People do get left behind. I have found myself separated from a partner. There's a lot of jealousy involved in this." It is not hard to understand why other mountaineers might resent Messner. Some of his achievements border on the superhuman. His conquest of Everest was achieved entirely solo. In mountaineering parlance, that means that he did it equipped only with boots, crampons and an icepick and without the use of any pre-arranged bivouacs. To add to the machismo of that accomplishment, he made the climb during the monsoon season. Messner is not a modest man. He has described his own achievements as "sensational" and "unsurpassable". He makes no attempt to disguise the demands of his chosen sport. "High-altitude climbing is about suffering. It is about being afraid. I don't believe anyone who says there's a lot of pleasure in climbing the biggest peaks. It is dangerous, especially if there are no sherpas or fixed ropes and camps. If you make one mistake, you die." Critics have suggested that if everything he claims to have done was true, Messner would be dead. Fellow mountaineers hint that his brain has been damaged by lengthy exposure to oxygen deprivation. The Pakistani climber Nazir Sabir claims to have smoked hashish with him at high altitude. Others accuse him of "climbing over bodies" to beat fellow climbers to a peak in the Austrian Alps. In 1997, Messner contributed to the legend of his own lunacy by asserting that he had once stood face to face with a yeti in the high reaches of the Himalayas. He claimed it was 7ft tall, immensely strong and agile, with short legs and long, powerful arms. It made hissing noises and he saw its teeth and eyes before it ran into the trees. Messner said he would publish proof, including photographs, in a book about the mythical creature. In the end, he backtracked, arguing that the yeti is, in fact, an unclassified species of brown bear. Climbing has made him wealthy. Home is a castle, Juval, in the Italian Alps. Each new adventure is followed by a lucrative written account of his bravery. But if jealousy is involved in the allegations about his brother's death, it may be prompted by motives more personal than the excellent living Messner generates by writing and lecturing about his achievements. He had an affair with Max von Kienlin's wife and subsequently married her. Will his expedition to Nanga Parbat prove his innocence? "I'm surprised he is going back," says Douglas. "The odds of finding someone who is lost in an avalanche are very low. Sometimes a body is thrown up but, ultimately, you only have the word of the people involved." Most in the mountaineering fraternity will accept Reinhold Messner's word, even if they believe that his latest attempt on "killer mountain" is motivated by a yearning for adventure rather than any realistic prospect of proving that his brother really did reach the top.
  4. no, tripe.
  5. i may state the obvious but if you have not much expedition experience perhaps you should first start with smaller/cheaper objectives.
  6. premise: something assumed or taken for granted. "intellectuals feel entitled to greater rewards and are resentful for not receiving them", "Intellectuals feel they are the most valuable people, the ones with the highest merit" .... more or less what he says (that' s the mud by the way). now where is the supporting evidence?
  7. this is his premise: "Intellectuals now expect to be the most highly valued people in a society, those with the most prestige and power, those with the greatest rewards. Intellectuals feel entitled to this. But, by and large, a capitalist society does not honor its intellectuals. Ludwig von Mises explains the special resentment of intellectuals, in contrast to workers, by saying they mix socially with successful capitalists and so have them as a salient comparison group and are humiliated by their lesser status. However, even those intellectuals who do not mix socially are similarly resentful, while merely mixing is not enough--the sports and dancing instructors who cater to the rich and have affairs with them are not noticeably anti-capitalist." and it is entirely unsupported .... if ever he has supporting evidence, his hypothesis may be worth consideration. in the meantime, it only amounts to a cliche about bitter, resentful intellectuals. in other words it's the usual: if you can't defeat their ideas, sling mud to discredit the individuals.
  8. i suspect 'one voice, one vote' is a concept that is too difficult for trask and friends to understand.
  9. cutthroat pass is worth considering. short hike (~4miles), moderate elev. gain (2000'), great camping just below and east of the pass on rock ledges overlooking the lake. decent scrambling and a few short climbs within easy reach. one could get back to 20 via the pct for a loop.
  10. thanks for the diagrams, that helped ( ). i guess the logical conclusion is that serenity is not a stable state or at least is not dependent on going at one's own pace since 1) doing so will lead to encountering another packet of 'slow ass mofos' and 2) packets of 'slow ass mofos' don't go at the same 'slow ass mofos' speed and 3) trying to avoid catching up or being squeezed between packets of 'slow ass mofos' will lead to losing one's serenity. are you publishing soon on this?
  11. no offense Jens but the large fraction of climbers who have experienced bad rockfall on Little T could be one major reason for its relative unpopularity (its being in the shadow of the big one is probably the main reason). i almost got killed on that thing and have heard a number of similar stories.
  12. the beckey-davis has nice hand sized cracks. it seemed there were several ways to go, just pick the better looking one. imo the best line on the south face is the following: alternate start ~40ft to west of Beckey wide crack (up 2 steep parallel thin hand cracks, ~mid-10), meet burgner-stanley and follow for 1.5 pitch to left side of snafflehound ledge, from snafflehound follow right-rising shallow crack-ramp to a knobby face to a corner (mid-10), follow corner crack (hands) for ~2 pitches to summit (.9)
  13. yes, i usually go past the swamp, up a couple switchbacks in the woods before i leave the trail. there is a 5-10 minutes trail-less minor bushwack across a stream before reaching a rocky knoll (straightforward beyond this point). i did the swamp once a long time ago (toward argonaut) and it was much worse.
  14. don't go through the swamp. stay west of it and catch the stuart lake trail in large timber, 5 minutes past the beginning of the climb beyond the swamp.
  15. could this be due to warmer than usual/low snow year?
  16. j_b

    Serpentine

    serpentine arete is better as an early season climb (~may). ideally when only the .8 pitches are snow free and loose blocks are still frozen in. imo, it is often the case for many easy/moderates, west arete eldorado, ... any others?
  17. cool. the rock looks great!
  18. tell us about it.
  19. varying height but usually ~50 ft? or is there anything bigger?
  20. oh yeah i remember the liege controversy. hopefully it's water under the bridge. i find it rather refreshing to see a former great befriend the current champ. i think the article says 70 kph (~45mph). it's plenty fast to be taking a dinger though. do you race much?
  21. lance had a close call today but he is ok http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/4103.0.html was mercks saying anything bad about armstrong?
  22. j_b

    Abuse Me

    abuse be?
  23. j_b

    Amuse me.

    it's the end of the school year and prof. einstein hands out the final exam. to eagerly waiting students. one of them is quick to notice something's wrong and ask: "but professor you asked the same questions last year". eistein responds: "ah yes, but this year, the correct answers are different".
  24. j_b

    Amuse me.

    me? i never pick my nose I don't understand you at all b_j. You appear to be a miserable son of a bitch, living a unsatisfactory life. In your case, suicide might ease the pain for all concerned. don't delude yourself. few really dig your continuous drivel. there is a simple reason for that: who would want to accept your demeaning reality where everyone is a 'shit eating fucker' or somesuch. although you may think my life is unsatisfactory, we know your reality is not enviable. the content of your posts is a testimony to that. so snoboy, are you amused yet
  25. j_b

    Amuse me.

    me? i never pick my nose
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