Thinker

Now that's a novel idea...

Matt, I wanted to leave them with a little hope. Every so often I end up with a big CF, too...still.

skiing

The single biggest influence on the planet is time. I suspect the next ice age or plague will more than compensate for human overpopulation, GWB, over development, pollution, and yes, even bolts. It's just a matter of time until it happens.

ethics rule

some interesting applications of the technology: http://www.darwinmag.com/connect/opinion/column.html?ArticleID=509 http://www.comtrue.com/ver2000_2/html/english/news/article/article_1.html

rock this!

I wouldn't recommend this for a good bottle of wine, as the high temperatures could (and probably would) alter the flavor and character of the wine. Might be fine for the cheap stuff.

did anyone see the Vagina Monologues when it was in town? It had me on the verge of being uncomfortable.... well actually, I was about 2 seconds from getting up and walking out to the lobby for a breather when the woman finally quit her several minute long screaming of the word 'cunt'.

The other thread has me confused...and it looks like you guys know what you're talking about.... so is it pretty good or pretty stupid to bolt up a perfectly good pass?

I just wanted to add something that may (oh the horror!) bring this thread back on topic. There are obviously many ways to climb a mulitpitch route like you've proposed. I think the best thing you can do is just go do it, making sure to keep the few primary principles in mind (redundant anchor, dont' drop the rope or your partner, climb safe). There's a lot to be learned by creating a absolute cluster f**k at your first couple of belay stations, but as long as you're safe it can be a total learning experience. Try as many of the techniques listed here as you can, they'll all come in handy some day in some situation, and the more you're exposed to the more efficient you'll eventually be. Obviously, you don't want to make your first multipitch climb a long commiting one where an early sunset could cause you problems. Pick a short climb or 2 to practice and do trial runs on. Before I took a relatively new climber to Yos with me we went to Vantage and L-worth and went thru the motions on some fun easy climbs where exposure and time were not factors. So what if you make your pitches 20 or 30 feet long...it's the mechanics of the process at the belay stations you need some practice at. Go have fun...and let us know how it goes.

My attempt at subtle humor has escaped the Canadians, and most likely everyone else, too. It was a play on CBS's (the award winning Mountaineer of the year) use of the word Mountie, and my past experience at a Seattle Mountaineers singles event/hike. I have no doubt that the local Squamish Mounties have a few hotties on staff...I look forward to seeing them at the coffee shop some rainy day.

One of the things that originally hooked me on climbing was the intense focus I was able to generate when climbing. I've found that as I push my limits and abilities, the level of focus has decreased, and reading about this book has reminded me of those early years. I think I'll get a copy. $60? I see it on Amazon for $17 list price (176 pages, published June 2003). Was there an earlier (more extensive) edition? Thanks to all for the input.

the real cork stopper is just so traditional, and true connoisseurs save and use the corks from their favorite bottles of wine for all sorts of things. I imagine that the cork vs synthetic debate rages as strongly in the wine industry as trad vs sprot does in ours.

first of all it is a flake. right above the bottom bolt is a bomber nut/ tcu placement and even a pod for dru's tri-cams. well shit we might have to bolt libra crack as it si in danger of expanding same with city park... granite is sketchyyyyy! edit: also nice looking nut placement to teh right of the second bolt. if the flake is as sketchy and chossy as you say, why would you wanna climb it. Hey! What in the world are you TALKING about? Those aren't gear placements, those are holds . If you fill those up with gear you can't climb the damn thing.

In all actuality, it was prolly a hairy fat chick just finishing up her solo trek of the PCT.

All I need is a hole

I narrowly escaped some of those Mounties once at one of their singles outings. YIKES!!! from what I've seen, cc.com girls are much cuter, overall. Back on the subject at hand, I'm glad they got that mess sorted out up there. Sounds like the local govt has taken a few of the steps necessary to make the place safer. Now if they can just work on the car clout problem.

I've seen the spiraled part of a coat hangar used as a corkscrew before. Unwind coat hangar, twist into cork, pull cork out, remove cork, reassemble hangar.

I found out yesterday that some or all Seattle city buses have this device. Not all traffic signals have the recievers yet, but the city continues to update the signals according to some sort of schedule. Installing the receivers triggers various environmental requirements, 'hot spot' analysis of CO and PM10 is one of them in most cases GOD it's scary when work overlaps with cc.com topics......

The godforsaken land of Oklahoma.

SWM trad climber (and closet bolt clipper) ISO cute sprot Betty who wants to expand her horizons and experience the real life. Must be spontaneous, flexible, low maintenance, passionate, and beautiful. I offer the finest personal 12-step program for recovering sprotettes available---fringe benefits included.

I don't think anyone pays enough attention to the thread structure while posting to make it worth activating when reading.

beat this

The Rock Warrior's Way: Mental Training for Climbers anybody read it yet? worthwhile?