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I wish I had your summer, but I'm glad you share this much of it with us.

Nice TR, sounds like you had a splendid time. With a 60m rope you can link your pitches 2&3 and 4&5 for a couple of full value leads. Wouldn't that flake on 3 require a really huge cam? The idea of it is scarier than the climbing actually is. Thanks for the happy shiny pictures!

Wow! Can I have your autograph Mister Pope?

Yup, exactly as Goatboy says. You can maximize the coolness factor with a little extra work by carting your bivy gear onto the grand ledge about a pitch and a half above the notch, great position with panoramic pickets views.

Here you go Choada, this one is for sale: Supertopo thread

How about a hand held digital recorder with the sound of a shotgun being pumped?

As an alternate descent, you can get up to the West Peak summit area with some moderate simulclimbing on good rock (the black cornflake covered downclimb to the spire notch is probably the "hard" part). From the summit area, scoot across a little nearly level snow, some scruffy scrambling to the West summit, then down and left towards an easy gully. Keep an eye out for a big cairn to the right, which signals your right turn to leave the gully and traverse over to the ridge overlooking the basin you started in. Easy, fast, low stress, and safe.

Perhaps you'll note: a) he didn't fall b) he actually made it all the way up the problem What's the deal, is it a problem for you if his friends are more compassionate than the people you used to hang out with?

I've seen your real name coupled with Fairweather in at least one summit register in the Olympics, and I think you did that too when you and I did Stone earlier this year. You were pretty forthcoming when I first met you at a Pub Club in Tacoma, and don't seem to shy about who you are in the real world via PM with anyone who's respectful. These are good things by the way.

No, Canada is the country where the nanny state has banned peanut butter for the sake of the allergic elites.

oh, are you a kettle?

You are normal, I think you meant to say "ordinary."

FYI, recent debate amongst the mods has yielded the conclusion that there is less tolerance of Spray in TR's in the Regional Forums than there is in the Rock Climbing forum, where ethical debate is more the norm.

I guess you really do live in Index, eh?

Matt, does that mean you endorse that behavior? Situation normal does not necessarily equal situation desirable.

On this board, you're more like to find dirty deeds, done with sheep. baa

Funny, I was listening to Southern Culture on the Skids when I clicked on your link, these guys seem to fall into a similar genre. Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna put the Tacoma show on my calendar.

Well, the development aspect is one issue, but they're also a prime example of low bid = low quality. Production of those homes is all about downward price pressure on all the contractors involved, and what you get is the shoddiest product everyone can get away with in the least time available. You know, just like those Russian e-bay copies are much cheaper than Wild Country friends... But hey, if you'd rather have a case of Schaefer than a six pack of Terminal Gravity, you might fit right in.

How many anchor failures has anyone heard of from this? I've heard of the American Death Triangle, but not the "death x" Carabiners must be much more fragile than I thought if 12 to 18 inches of shock load is enough to break them. Any test data? Reminds me of that time I woke up in a bathtub full of ice with this note...

So c'mon Darin, make a bid for the "knows this area of the Cascades more than pretty much anyone" crown and share your hard earned wisdom with us!

Since when have you ever been afraid to stick your oar in the water?

Yah, sarcasm and the internet can be a bad fit, so often it's dependent on tone and body language that's stripped away in this format. Years ago when I first met Fairweather at a pub club in Tacoma he said, "You're a good guy, I like you, but that doesn't mean I have to be nice to you on the internet." I thought it was an excellent parsing of the personal and the political. btw, I've been eating a lot of red meat lately, it's pretty damned good.

I thought you were just kicking sand, so I was kicking it back. You love to troll and poke, but you get so brittle when someone plays the same game with you. My sole contribution to this thread was posting four images from out of my "humor" file, curious to see if anyone tried to construe meaning from it. I found your interpretation of this Rorschach test both interesting and disturbing. If I really wounded you so deeply by distilling my unease at things you've written over the years into a few sharp darts, I apologize. Even now I can never tell when you're sincere or when you're just engaging in more psyc-op mindfuck posturing.

You know, the prospect of thugs prosecuting thought crimes has always made you nigh unto gleeful. The notion that you would suggest this country should be run similarly to Germany or the Middle East, as well as your eager anticipation of political repression is either a bunch of pot stirring hooey or a frightening glimpse into the black pit of your core values. Why do you hate our freedoms?