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You are normal, I think you meant to say "ordinary."

FYI, recent debate amongst the mods has yielded the conclusion that there is less tolerance of Spray in TR's in the Regional Forums than there is in the Rock Climbing forum, where ethical debate is more the norm.

I guess you really do live in Index, eh?

Matt, does that mean you endorse that behavior? Situation normal does not necessarily equal situation desirable.

On this board, you're more like to find dirty deeds, done with sheep. baa

Funny, I was listening to Southern Culture on the Skids when I clicked on your link, these guys seem to fall into a similar genre. Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna put the Tacoma show on my calendar.

Well, the development aspect is one issue, but they're also a prime example of low bid = low quality. Production of those homes is all about downward price pressure on all the contractors involved, and what you get is the shoddiest product everyone can get away with in the least time available. You know, just like those Russian e-bay copies are much cheaper than Wild Country friends... But hey, if you'd rather have a case of Schaefer than a six pack of Terminal Gravity, you might fit right in.

How many anchor failures has anyone heard of from this? I've heard of the American Death Triangle, but not the "death x" Carabiners must be much more fragile than I thought if 12 to 18 inches of shock load is enough to break them. Any test data? Reminds me of that time I woke up in a bathtub full of ice with this note...

So c'mon Darin, make a bid for the "knows this area of the Cascades more than pretty much anyone" crown and share your hard earned wisdom with us!

Since when have you ever been afraid to stick your oar in the water?

Yah, sarcasm and the internet can be a bad fit, so often it's dependent on tone and body language that's stripped away in this format. Years ago when I first met Fairweather at a pub club in Tacoma he said, "You're a good guy, I like you, but that doesn't mean I have to be nice to you on the internet." I thought it was an excellent parsing of the personal and the political. btw, I've been eating a lot of red meat lately, it's pretty damned good.

I thought you were just kicking sand, so I was kicking it back. You love to troll and poke, but you get so brittle when someone plays the same game with you. My sole contribution to this thread was posting four images from out of my "humor" file, curious to see if anyone tried to construe meaning from it. I found your interpretation of this Rorschach test both interesting and disturbing. If I really wounded you so deeply by distilling my unease at things you've written over the years into a few sharp darts, I apologize. Even now I can never tell when you're sincere or when you're just engaging in more psyc-op mindfuck posturing.

You know, the prospect of thugs prosecuting thought crimes has always made you nigh unto gleeful. The notion that you would suggest this country should be run similarly to Germany or the Middle East, as well as your eager anticipation of political repression is either a bunch of pot stirring hooey or a frightening glimpse into the black pit of your core values. Why do you hate our freedoms?

For a born again wannabe dwayner-lite sycophant, you sure know how to be a sport climber. and it's so cute when you act all tough 'n shit What a tool. Poor Saint Ken, martyred on the holy cross for proclaiming, "Fuck you, I am the boss of you."

What are you saying, if things were really bad then elvis + cross = a date in Abu Ghraib? Yeah, if this really were the 4th Reich odds are I would be persona non grata, but does that mean you'd be working for the man?

So light and fast, even the trip report is bare bones.

Yeah, that one's always a shocker, but the picture pages back of the Oswald Band's last show brought it to mind and I just had to share.

I find I climb better when dressed in a dapper manner, don't you? Yeah, next pitch looked great, but bailing was prudent, as it was we didn't get back to Tenino until after 11 and Ben still had to get to Portland from there. Earlier start next time, maybe do the Dreamer Direct or Urban Bypass start rather than the Safe Sex pitches...

Feck, you mean the one in Chilliwack?

Oh my, I hear ya, ain't the truth PP!