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saying we've always been wrong so therefore we should just keep being wrong is not logical woodrow wilson was an asshole, as many historians have said it seems odd that so many people begin their counter-diatribes w/ "you don't really believe that" - why in the fuck would they write such lengthy responses if they didn't? it's not like they're running for president and therefore NEED to lie.

tvash don't mess w/ that chronic no more after he woke up in a bangkok whore-house in a gorilla suit a face-full of lipstick

funny - just read and highlighted that quote a couple hours before reading this - of course it took an army of africans to kill so virile a fellow!

now all your internets are belong to us!

sorry, on a gibbon-bender this morning: on the decline and fall of the roman empire, and substituting "military-industrial complex" for "soldiers": "but the tyrant's avarice, stimulated by the insatiate desires of the military-industrial complex, at length attacked the public property...the MI-complex, among whom this sacrilegious plunder was distributed, recieved it with a blush; and, hardened as they were in acts of violence, they dreaded the just reproaches of their friends and relations."

edward gibbon, replacing "legions" with "democrats" and "guards" with "republicans" and "emperors" with "presidents": "the democrats imitated the example of the republicans, and defended their prerogative of licentiousness with the same furious obstinacy...but when the last enclosure of the constitution was beaten down...with bloody hands, savage manners, and desperate resolutions, they sometimes guarded, but oftener subverted, the throne of the presidents"

bob marley the clancy brothers beethoven johnny cash wierd al

not saying they wouldn't be replaced w/ an entirely new set of fucking annoying, damn-near irresolvable problems if someone could get off their ass already and invent the holo-deck, all this madness will get a lot more tame ...so long as they can keep the power on.

very nice bill. so, senor winter, i respect both of ya'lls opinions a good deal - what say ye? personaly, as a believer in several ufo-based conspiracy theories, i worry not for the future - we will all Be on the Mother-Ship Very fucking sooN!

i was kinda with him till he got to #2 the rant is interesting in that it would indicate these are not simply wild-eyed uneducated psychos - they do not appear at all ignorant of history, nor of our many hyprocrises. there are several barbs in there that i think truly hurt because they are, well, true. we certainly have played power politics on the international scene, we have waged war on civilian populations in the name of peace, we have denied others democracy when it didn't suit our needs, we have denied and abused human rights when it was inconvenient - and certainly much of this has gone on right before our eyes while the masses cheered. the conclusion that we deserve death is of course inane, and the demand that we forego all other theologies in favor of islam is stupidly medieval. it is regretable that there is no room for debate w/ these folks, as we do have some things in common, and not necessarily all good characteristics at that. it does seem clear that 99% of our problems w/ them would go away if we'd tell israel to go fuck itself. i'm sure they'd still be able to survive too, even if we did stop selling them tanks and fighters. clearly our attempt to act as intermediaries ain't amounting to much...

I agree with the first, but totally disagree with the second. Even as an advocate of use. I have watched 2 people on seperate occasions tie a single fig 8, thread their harness and start to climb w/o checking. They noticed after a few feet, but it indicates a complete lack of attention to detail. pot=paranoia pot does not = safety ymmv my natural personality is much more lackadasical and cavalier when sober - stoned, i triple check knots, placements, basics - it certainly doesn't make me faster, but certainly more cautious

explain bill - what do you mean a faux wilderness? still, always hard fighting the urge to heap color language on a fawking okie, no?

raindawg = buzz-kill the stupidiest thing to ever happen to me and my party in the mountains happened when i was climbing w/ 2 non-smokers and i was without - this disaster would never have occured had any of those things been different, i am sure smoking pot = paranoia = attention to safety i respect your personal choice though, dawg - i just really don't understand it. jeebus, even buckley dug on it!

it counts as a school day, and that's what counts for me come on june 17!

that's me, especially come june - so stay unemployed, eh?

"keep it in climbing"

hey, i can actually read some of that!

no right is inviolate, and i prefer my rights to privacy, fair trails and expression far more to guns, which you must admit, were written up in the murkiest fashion possible given the literary talents and wit of those founding-fuckers

i feel better off when i don't try to think how i ever felt at any other time - actually just not feeling or thinking at all seems to be a very good piece of advice, if only i could get that whole 8-fold path thing worked out....

come on wallstreet don't be slow this war's a go-go-go there's plenty enough money to be made in supplying the army the tools of the trade!

they can have my forest pass when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!

looks like seneca rocks, west virginia area?

sounds like it was in pretty normal condition, but it also sounds like you made the smart choice, knowing yourself and how you felt leaning out over the n face while doing the dance across the top is half the (super) fun!

maybe a strongly worded email to bill gates would help? if anyone can pull it off, you can mike-o!

your forget the all important 1/4 for the 420!