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naw, that would be fun as hell (pun belatedly intended) - could be in the same spirit as my frat's old "heaven n' hell" mixers - you bring the fruity-n-refreshing beverages and we bring the cinamon and brim-stone tasting shit

he's crazy too, but that nice-grandpa kinda crazy where you don't feel so alarmed when he has a steak-knife in his hand over a thanksgiving dinner

so my questions is, did anyone manage to finish any of the preceding paragraphs to the great big red flashing warning of anti-jesus death? its kinda hard not to just stampede to the clitoris on it... so, promised meself to lay low on the whole religion-thang this week, but good christ, its fucked up paranoid shit like this that makes me pathologically incapable of taking any person who believes in the big JC and the heavenly hitters seriously - i realize this paints all religious folks w/ the same crazy-brush, but it just seems that view points like this are the logical conclusion for believing in sacred texts and avenging umpires in the sky.

i'm on the "all send" list for a 90-something year old ww2 vet who's good for mostly sending out the most bizarre emails i usually get - thought this one had to be shared with the group - enjoy - all of the colored sections were like that in the email of course --------------------------------------------- Scroll down to read all to the end. Scary!!! What a Black Columnist has to say about Obama. Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun. It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front-running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the front runner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him. Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential front runner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda and he lost.Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant. Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America. But let's look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial 'beauty.' Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan , a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off t he table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on 'the rich.' How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicar e? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, 'All praise and glory to God!' but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have 'hijacked' - hijacked - Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of 'bringing America together' means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and - yes - they're talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton. It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizations war. Kind of scary, wouldn't you think? Remember--God is good, and is in time, on time, every time. According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA?? I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to re post this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! If you think I am crazy.. I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on t he 'unknown' candidate. Think about this!!!

i'd gladly trade the gorge's infestation of poison oak for one of ticks

surely a man of many medical problems...

you go to war w/ the office pool you have, not the office pool you want!

i find it interesting and irritating too...probably more the latter than the former in the opinion of my wife and kids i aim in life to embody the philosophy of the drill instructor from "full metal jacket" - "here you are all equally worthless."

i was inspired to go and see what the man thinks of himself - he does appear to waffle a bit, so he probably wouldn't make a good liberal (like jesus in that respect - not probably as true for moses and mohammed) the llama dog has been quoted as saying: "If someone asks me whether I am the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama," he said, "then I answer, without hesitation, yes. This does not mean that I am the same being as the previous Dalai Lama. Some Dalai Lamas are a manifestation of Manjusri. Some are a manifestation of Chenrizi. Chenrizi is the manifestation of compassion. Manjusri is the manifestation of wisdom. I have a special connection with the Thirteenth Dalai Lama and the Fifth Dalai Lama. I have felt some kind of karmic relations or connections even with the Buddha. I feel I can say I have some kind of connection with the previous Dalai Lamas, some of the previous masters, with Chenrizi, even with the Buddha." at any rate, yes, i think him and his followers are full of shit if they actually believe we have souls and those souls find new bodies after death. i note as well that, given buddhism's (similiar to christianity's) pacific message, the religion tends to be honored more in the breach than in the observance. if nothing else, i dig on the dalai far more than the founders of the other faiths i was harshing on in that he is incredibly accepting of alternative faiths, and not consigning the vast majority of humankind then to hell for merely differing on the proper form of worship.

Really? So you buy that the Dali Lama is the 14th incarnation of an "enlightened being"? THAT is NOT a "fantasy character"? Interesting. no - to be certain i don't believe in reincarnation - i'm not even certain to what extent HE thinks he is the reincarantion of siddartha guatama.

warm rock to be had - spare me from the tempation of doing the illicit solo lap on beacon! o-god-zone, broughtons, whatever...seems kinda silly to drive all the way out to smith on a day like this...

actually i was at the gym, but i'm back now... dude, the dalai's got that look you can't put down! that "i might look like i'm here for business but really it's time to party" thing. it's pretty easy to denigrate fantasy characters from a moldering 2 millenia plus fairy-tale. at least the big DL can be sampled in the flesh (in a totally not-gay way, mind you). still...fuck the dalai! there, i said it. i have far greater faith in him and his followers not coming to cut my balls off than the islamojudaechristofascists. don't recall any of them coining a groovy, groovy phrase like "if you meet muhammed on the road - kill him!"

i'll have the lasagna

whatever it takes to win seriously - the past couple of democratic presidential candidates were wimps when it came to dealing w/ mud-slinging - if the dems are going to win again, they have to be quick to respond to these mind-numbing conservative attacks w/ a good old fashioned "you know what? FUCK YOU!" the proles don't give a shit about a well-reasoned argument in support a virtous position. they just like drama.

thread killer!

turnabout's fair-play though, right? seriously, a significant reason liberals have lost the last 2 elections is b/c they've been pussies and too afraid to fight dirty like their slimey opponents - maybe it's time they start doing some wrong in the name of right? beats bitchign about it from the outside...

when the revolution comes, i have no doubt i'll be one of the first put up against the wall

and big fan of seeing conservatives pissed off and moaning

fine by me

bush I sent us troops into somalia while he was a lame duck i think a very large # of folks who wouldn't mind a war w/ iran would still be alarmed by a lame duck president committing the next admin to such a monstrously large task imho, probababilty of all out war w/ iran this year <1% now, i wouldn't be at all suprised if bush decided to do some sorta commando or air-strike type deal in his final days - i would be equally suprised if there wasn't a huge shit-storm surronding such an act too. i am hopeful that the folks around bush wouldn't be so stupid as to provoke iran w/ an air-strike knowing they couldn't do anything to follow it up.

Lively up yourself and dont be no drag Lively up yourself, cause this is the other bag Hey, lively up yourself and dont be no drag You lively up yourself, dig it, the other bag Hey, you rock so, you rock so, like you never did before You dip so, you dip so, and you can dip thru my door You come so, you come so, oh yeah, like I do adore you You skank so, you skank so, and-a I can assure you You can lively up yourself and dont be no drag Hey, you lively up yourself, can you dig it? Hey (you rock so, you rock so), like you never did before You dip so, you dip so, can you dig it? You lively up yourself and dont be no drag You lively up yourself, cause this is the other bag Hey, lively up yourself Lively up yourself, other bag Can you dig it? can you dig it? ...

christ, we're like only a few seconds away from having to read another chapter of war'n'f'n'peace!

anything by bob marley

not when you're batting against a guy who can throw a 90 mph fastball or guarding against a bunt while playing third base

and no one had to pry shit out of his hands after he was dead!