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THIS WEBSITE does a pretty good job of fitting the evidence to a 757 impact.

You know what the densest (and therefore the part that has the greatest penetrating power) part of an airplane is? Well, it's not the stale pretzels and fluffy pillows in the cabin, it's the near solid mass of titanium, steel, and aluminum of the engines. Why didn't the engines punch through the wall? And if the non-fuselage parts of the airplane didn't penetrate the wall, but instead sheared off and just bounced off the wall, why isn't it scattered all across the lawn in front of the pentagon? In the immediate post-impact pictures, there is no airplane wreckage visible. Seems weird to me. If you are really suggesting that the wings and tail folded in towards the body of the aircraft and then went into the 16' hole that you claim was made by the fuselage.... well, you have a poor understanding of physics. edit: Interesting link Interesting link #2 Link #3 Green arrows show where the "wing roots" should have impacted. Note lack of damage where tail of plane would have hit. Yellow lines mark the support columns (~10ft apart). Impressive that a guy who had only had a couple weeks of pilot school managed this direct hit while going >500mph.

Damnit. Who are we allowed to make fun of then?

godDAMN that is a purty mountain.

Maybe this topological conundrum has something to do with the recent proof of the Poincare conjecture?

Nice! That Meteor crack does indeed look super duper. Hand-sized? Thanks.

Regarding the Loose Change video, I think a lot of it is bullshit, but how did a 757 fit into a 16' diameter hole in the Pentagon? That one really makes me scratch my head. And the missing gold. And the collapse of three high rise buildings supposedly due to fire (something that had never happened before. ever.) I think the video raises a lot of interesting questions that I would like to hear answers to, but I don't buy thier conclusion of a huge, top-level conspiracy by the US gubmint. Somebody would have squealed by now. edited to fix boneheaded spelling error graciously pointed out by skykilo.

Interesting correlation: "Overall, how would you rate President Bush's performance on the job . . . ?" Excellent/ Good - 37% Fair/Poor - 63% Unsure - 1% SOURCE

But you add about 100 miles of unneccesary driving. Car shuttle sounds like a pain in the ass to me. My opinion on Stuart North Side climbs: Early to mid season, approach mountaineers creek, descend Sherpa glacier, exit via mountaineers creek. Late season, approach via Ingalls Lake, descend cascadian, exit longs pass. Nice trip report and purty pictures!

Silver Star is burning!??!

Walking with sticks in your hands? BRILLIANT!!!

four and a half plus one solo? I've got him beat.

Yes.

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There is a time and place for a single. There is a time and place for doubles. To say that doubles are always better than a single is silly in my opinion. Depends on the route, the conditions, the climbers, etc. I like the simplicity of a single rope and it's lighter than two twins, but yes, bailing with a set of twins would be easier than with a single. Edit: On the other hand, YEAH TWINS!!! <-- might be considered NSFW

I like the way Nelson/Potterfield give grades to both the technical climbing portion (which is typical) as well as the approach. I'm one of those folks who believe that the Grade of a route should indicate the commitment level and difficulty of retreat to "non-technical" terrain, so I didn't think Layton's route was Grade VI. I think it's hard to make any black and white definitions about these sorts of things though. Edit: This is a Grade VI:

Bummer to have to trade an Index day for an X38 day. How do you know when it's bedtime at Neverland?

Just pants optional double mochachinos

No. Passenger is a hard route on the East side of SEWS.

Pics? Trip report?

I saw one of these in action on TV not too long ago. Very cool. $108,000 though.

"ALOT" is not a word dumbshit.