Alpinfox

proximal oh SNAP! Somebody knows their anatomical/topological antonyms! Fucking kangaroos...

NE ridge of Torment looks like a LONG fun scramble. I'd say she goes at 5.5. Go get 'er.

wow

Uh Oh. You should spit that cum out before you try to talk.

Apparently in addition to being counting/spelling/grammar challenged, you have poor reading comprehension skills. Fact: I was on your friend's ass for > 4 miles. Our unplanned convoy didn't catch up to the really slow Subaru until ~1 mile from the trailhead. edit: I see you have edited your above posts to be more alligned with reality. Nice work. Whatever, I hope you and your kids had a blast. The take home message of all this bullshit is this: In the future, you should warn folks if you plan a Mounties-style siege of a narrow road with your minivan convoy. You know, post on cc.com, mountie's board, craigslist.... due dilligence. That's about 8 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

<_____Insert "yo momma" joke here_____>

No, there was your friend the physics genius in front of me, then you, then.... four miles later.... we all caught up with the blue hair in the slowbaru. I know counting isn't an emphasized skill in Engineering, but by my estimation there were two slow cars in front of me at first, and then three. And "Pax" means "leadfoot" in Cantonese.

Nectar. Not sure if I can make it. It's a bit far for my comfortable post-beer consumption biking range.

innocent? Here's a tip people: When you are on a narrow road and another car appears out of nowhere behind you and starts tailgating, that means they want to drive faster than you and you should pull over and let them pass. This is especially true if you have THREE cars backed up behind you. Fucking fucks. Yeah. Pretty much. I was going "hiking" after all.

You bastard. You teased me last week; not sure I can stand being stood up again. The Dungeon? I left my CC there last time, so it would I could check a couple errands off the list if we go there. Cheap nacho night?

Leland is one of the author's of the route. He's a good guy and put in a lot of work on the route and, for the record, I believe that he legitimately didn't know that the area was in a wilderness area when he put it up. I don't think folks need to have climbed a certain route to object to the style of ascent/development. I mean, I think the Compressor Route on Cerro Torre is fucking retarded and if anyone did that in modern times they should get a big boot up their ass. I feel quite comfortable saying that - even though I've never climbed the route, and probably never will.

Why? This is a sincere question. Climbing infinite bliss is like screwing a fat chick or riding a moped. It might be fun, but you won't respect yourself in the morning, and you don't want your buddies to find out you did it.

Nice work guys. That's beautiful rock.

Awesome Blake. You have been making me very jealous recently. Keep those TRs coming!

I've been told I could make a living doing that, but I'd have to be a bit more choosy about my clients though.

Then, why not just ignore it, rather than pissing on people who don't meet your expectations? I'm trying to make some money.

Kevbone, There are multiple, large format color pictures of the route with annotated overlays. There is a six page-long topo in PDF with every bolt shown. There are photos looking up and down from key spots on the route where some people have gotten off track with annotations showing the proper way to go. There are dozens of trip reports. All of this stuff is readily available on this miracle of communication we call Teh Internut. If the stuff you found ain't good enough, perhaps you aren't ready to climb outside of the gym yet? Or maybe you are just bad at computer searches? In either case, like I said, I'll guide you up the thing for $200. Problem solved. I'll give you the step-by-step beta. Even through the Oh-so-scary, unbolted, 4th class section. Sorry if you think I'm being a smart-ass or an asshole, but I'm suffering from climbing withdrawl and I'm tired of this route and peoples questions about it. It is not the style of route that should engender so much interest or enthusiasm. It is not the type or route that I want representing WA climbing.

Yeah, there must be some good information on teh internut somewhere about this route, it's too bad its so hard to find. It would be so nice if I could just type in a few words and have some kind of keyword search program go find the information for me. Well, until that pipedream is a reality, I'll give you all the beta you need and even guide you up the thing for $200.

Yeah, that was pretty much the take home message. Here's an image of a phytobezoar for your contemplation:

YOU ARE FUCKING DOOOOOOOMED!!!! Bezoar OK, link doesn't seem to be working:

HONK!

I'd discourage getting a 70m rope; it's just extra weight to carry. On most alpine climbs (especially ridge climbs which dominate the sub 5.9 choices) your pitches will be short. Usually shorter than 50m, but I think a 60m rope is a good length because a lot of rappels are set up for 30m. Other than that, I think you are correct that any of those ropes will get the job you describe done.

The (clever and hilarious) continutation of this thread that the moderators chose to move elsewhere

You are starting to use cc.com inside jokes. This is not a good sign. Probably time to step away from the keyboard and get some fresh air. Get out while you still can.

Wow, that's some Colorado-caliber scree/talus. Don't see that in WA too often.