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Anyway, I have a gun and I'm keeping it. So Fairwither can be a wrong as he wants and rant and rave but he still agrees with me.

Actually, I believe it was liberal judges back in the early 80's that ruled the mentally ill can no longer be involuntarily committed to mental institutions. A violation of their civil rights, ya know. Now we have ten's of thousands of people roaming the streets of this country who, by all rights, should be receiving treatment in an institution. But if its easier for you to blame those evil conservatives, then by all means...... Guess again. Fed funding of state institutions was cut under Reagan during his first and second term and then again completely eliminated under Bush. Right now you can have a direct relative committed if you can prove they are a danger to themselves or someone else. My ex's ex could be committed today if his family would take responsibility and PAY for his entire bill.

Nice TR! It was like I was there only I wasn't. I sure like my couch.

OK. I'm a liberal who is mad at the conservatives for de-funding the mental institutions and landing my ex's ex on the streets where he is free to drive without a license and talk to passers by about how 5 evil demons are going to make him kill his own son (my stepson) thereby making it my responsibility to provide for my ex family's defense against a man who doesn't give a rip about laws or reason. Meanwhile, those same "conservatives" are spending all the money they saved by closing the mental programs on invading Iraq and now occupying it indefinately. Today's conservatives are radicals. Yesterday's leberals are toting guns. I say bring back the dope smoking George Bush.

It ain't mine but its just as dirty. When I was climbing up there regularly, it got cleaned off every year and the path was well beaten down. It was usually a hangout in the afternoon where folks would gather to climb out of the heat and put up a cloud.

We were there and drank our share. It got late and everyone quieted down and went to bed. There were no keg-stands, song-fests, or fist-fights. I think Carol was dissappointed. It was good to see you guys again. I didn't do any climbing but all in all it was a great time. This was the second year in a row that nobody peed on my tent.

Here's a tip; "Get a real job!"

I ran away with an extra MSR pot grabber. I left Sunday AM when Porter, Beck, Matt, and others were still hanging around the table. If anyone knows who's it is, ping me.

My daughter changed out of her soccer uniform Sat Oct 7, in the outhouse at the Snow Lake trailhead and left her blue and white soccer uniform in the outhouse. It has the number 12 on the jersey. Please call Keith with any info. 425 785-2806 Thank you.

NOOOO. From Seattle get to 405 then 522 east to Monroe where you can pick up highway 2 east. It will save you 45 minutes.

I'll bring a larg tarp. I think it's 12X20.

Damn leberals. Why don't you understand Reaganomics?

Oops I PM'd Snug, anyway, I go up Rainier once a year or so and would tag along, lead, help, whatever you want to call it. I am not a guide and not talking about charging money although I would expect that we would all share expenses. I would say Dynomite is in the minority for thinking there are not climbers willing to share knowledge/time. There just happen to be a large number of voiciferous a$$holes. Anyway, PM me. I don't put too much energy into putting these things together because they usually fizzle. Show me some energy and I'll be ready to climb Rainier.

Just don't tell anybody about it.

Do you check your pm's? Private Messages. Have a look.

Ouch. My brain hurts. Shouldn't we be out climbing or something. Your wife wasn't in on it. I was married once. No, twice.

David, Nice of you to be honest. It is very frustrating to get up on a mountain and find out that your partner has been working out at Starbucks for the last six months. Free advice, don't put your cell on the internet.

Fairly good stab at logic but your anger clouds your reason. Get over it. " no bfd" is the only part you got right. If you read the thread you will see that I am responding to the notion that we shouldn't "re"- name peaks. Absurd. That's my point. Thanks for backing me up. Even if you did distort it almost unrecognizably. Try cutting back on the coffee until you get laid.

Seriously though, isn't it obvious? Beckey's Tooth. Then Pandora can still call it the Tooth.

So much for my proposing we rename Liberty Cap 'Pandora Monz'. Actually, the original inhabitants had names for most of the mountains and rivers around NA for at least a few thousand years. Then we "discovered" them and put our names on them. It is pretentious for us newcomers to name any of them. But I guess we'll rename half of Iraq before we are done too.

Rename the Tooth 'Becky's Rod'.

I have climbed Orbit a few times and have never clipped a bolt on it and I think the natural pro is great. Take tricams and three small wires for the moves around the "Blank" corner. Other than that the pro is straightforward. "What difference would two new bolts make?" It would never stop. After a few more adventure climbs you will learn to love them.

Very cool TR.

So do any of you have beta on the Tooth?

This is fine if you are ready to weather a storm. Just don't go beyond the summit to the North.