G-spotter

Your president uses or used cocaine regularly, why aren't you trying to have HIM removed?

You want to talk about disrespect, how about when someone adds ONE BOLT, just one, between two lines, links up the cruxes, and then gives the link-up a whole new name. Eh?

dreamcatcher actually links together parts of two separate aid lines (kloset klimb & rurp riot) with completely new climbing on a sloping handrail. try edumacating yourselfs before you babble, K?

Colin, shouldn't you be asking about the Skagit Valley road to Ross Lake instead

Well I could have gone on about how Joe Brown renamed some aid line to Right Eliminate when he eliminated the aid on gritstone in the 1950's but you have probably never heard of Joe or of gritstone.

"The Great Roof" is just descriptive. Anyway "The Optimist" (get the name right) doesn't even go anywhere near the roof so why call it the Great Roof? And it was a Smith local hardman who bolted it but couldn't free it. And no-one from Oregon has yet been able to free it. Just a California girl and a Canadian guy. WTF Oregon? You aren't representing no more.

You can drive to the end of pavement (at Chilliwack Lake Prov Park day use area.) North end of the lake. Road past that is maybe possible with chains, but heavily rutted from snowmobiles.

You mean new thing, like the way Bridwell and John Long "disrespected" the East Face of Washington Column by renaming it Astroman when they freed it in the 1970's? Yeah right Learn some history, boy.

creeping towards your nuts

It's like those penny trays next to the cash register. Got a piton? Leave a piton. Need a piton? Take a piton.

Spending 20 days on a wall is nothing to brag about when you could have been freeing the same wall in a day if you were a better climber.

Metric system = mental fluoride.

BTW why are you guys talking as if the Nose is a free climb, when it uses chipped holds (Jardine traverse)? Chipped holds = aid.

Wow, that's a big failure all right. Your bud is better at falling and failing to free than I am. Wow.

Pagetops are aid.

If you drive a car around a racetrack, is that the aid version of a 400 meter footrace?

They are failures, by definition, because they did not involve free climbing.

After the aid climbers get done with hammering them, then yes. Cause even the Shield headwall will be hands-size if the pin scars keep widening.

Gambo, are you getting paid per click or something?

There is no such thing as hard aid. I mean I've taken 50 footers on a hook but it wasn't hard at all. It would have been way, way harder to free it.

Too bad your friend spent all that time failing on big summits. He could have been training for free climbing.

ACCENT: Like those hicks from Georgia have. ASCENT: A climb.

BTW, can you even read English? Only one report this whole winter on Deep Throat, and it says "open and running": http://www.westcoastice.com/Page86.aspx Who are you blaming for saying it was in? Your own illiteracy?

Aid is not a legitimate style in its own right. It is simply cheating using ladders, and unsuccessful free climbing. Therefore until a route is freed it hasn't had a real ascent and can be named anything by the first to free it.

How about a Canadian? Vote for Dru!