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OMGHI2U!

But they have better Chinese firedrills and Peking duck

but hey why travel several days to climb that when there's unclimbed valleys of granite a couple hours away from home?

... and the length of the rope

where's the beef?

getting paid to do what you like is work?

On the contrary, getting clueless non-locals to bloviate about how they do it in their backwater choss-piles is almost exactly the point!

It's a tube used when muffdiving. OOOOh, you've got Quartzite. Wow. Which everyone knows climbs and protects just like granite

Meanwhile Glorious Leader Ahmadinejad sends patriotic Persian, rats, turtles and worms to space. Some race http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8497139.stm

Ya and you are from Oregon that has a thimbleful of granite so keep it in your pants and let the grownups talk, cause this is so over your head you might well get a snorkel.

point being, for those too dumb to otherwise see it, this is a new, modern crag developed with modern ethics and in some cases with chainsaws and shovels there are no old forgotten routes, although some of the previously developed ones have grown over everyone still knows where they are

you've been kissing pink again

FIRST you need to ask the people who have been climbing there for 40 years why they haven't bolted it before. Do that before you make a mistake. They may say, do it dude! Awsum idea! Or they might not. They may say "that was done with gear 20 years ago or we left that as a toprope on purpose"! Their opinion and thoughts should weight X 10 to what any anonymous person on the internet, who doesn't even know where this crag is, says in my opinion. What YOU want isn't really the issue as much as what everyone else thinks and wants. First consider all those who have been actively climbing there for years and who love that area (just talk it over with them!), then consider the next 30 years of climbers who will follow, then consider yourself last - in that order. Good luck with your project Marc! nobody's been climbing there 40 years dumbass. first routes went up in 93

and your point is that, based on his description (which obviously does not tell anyone enough about potential creative pro being available) you will rush to judgement about the need for bolts? you aren't getting in gear on this one

Where the guy in the third party said he thought it was WI7- M6+?

... or how you climbed a wi6 that's really wi4 or how you climbed el cap 10 yrs ago or soloed brassballs 20 years ago or whatever...

if you fall with an electric drill you break it.... unless you put a new battery in that old drill, i gave you you are bolting with someone else's drill in which case you need to do whatever you can to protect it! if it's your own, then anything is go. even bachar used to hang on hooks to drill on the steep stuff. the usual technique with a power drill is to leave the drill on a fifi hook on either the last bolt or the belay and haul it up to you once you're in place on the hook... unless you have it rigged up in a holster made out of an old milk jug be careful of either burning your leg or melting the rope with the hot drill bit if you are hanging it off your harness on lead given that this is something you already scrubbed on rappel though it's kinda contrived to bolt it on the lead now, the adventure aspect of starting from the ground into unknown terrain is irrevocably gone

Functionally equivalent to a summit

Haffner, Grotto, Heart Creek, Junkyards, King Creek and Johnson Canyon are all popular, busy spots with plenty of half-pitch ice and mixed lines so you have good chance of 1) just showing up there and being able to find partners if you are solo, and 2) being able to catch a burn on someone else's already set up TR, and 3) mostly have lines easy enough to solo if there is no one else there when you get there (except Haffner). If you want something longer than half a pitch but still need to find partners at the crag Evan-Thomas Creek is your best bet. There's usually ppl at the Moonlight-Snowline area (three two pitch WI4s plus a WI2 all within 500m of each other) and there's a new ice and mixed crag called the Rehab Wall another half an hour hike further up the trail (not in guidebook but topo online) with a further 6-8 popular one pitch lines.

I think you mistook a regular cloud for steam Bill.

WTF dude, Humboldt squid (Dodiscus gigas) in California waters is no news. They aren't even really giant. Compared to a real giant squid like Architeuthis or Mesonychotethis these things are puny. Barely the size of a man. Unlike the real big ones, though, you can eat these ones Calimari NOM NOM NOM

Its the smoke coming from Kevbone's head as he tries to add two and two.

One chromosome too many.

now with two repeats and one downgrade http://www.planetmountain.com/english/News/shownews1.lasso?l=2&keyid=37219