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Coca tea gets rid of headaches and nausea but only available in South America. A proven combatant against altitude illness that is free and available everywhere is TIME

I had a first yr college math class with a skinny pimply wigger who insisted on being called Funky Fresh Cecil I despise all attempts to nicknamize my name

Penticton, Okanagan, 5hrs east of Vancouver

the marsupials traverse is a nice hike. we linked it with that 'wherever I may roam' for a good day.

I read that she wasn't shot or stabbed as first reported. I look forward to the very special television movie of the week to clear it all up to for me. I hope the rest of those mechanics are OK too.

my understanding is that the autonomic breathing function is triggered by CO2 saturation in the blood. When CO2 levels are low breathing rate is suppressed. This is why you can pass out after hyperventilating. If you do rapid heavy inhale/exhale for a few seconds you load up on Oxygen which is good, but you blow off all the CO2 in your blood, so your body concludes it doesn't need to take another breath for a while. The oxygen you've loaded gets used up but it takes a while for the CO2 to move into the blood to trigger another breath and in the mean time you pass out. Sleeping at high altitude the same thing can occur, your breathing rate is slow because you are resting, each breath brings in only a little oxygen and your CO2 levels rise until you start gasping for air, but the gasping interval blows off all the CO2 and so your breathing shuts off, even though you haven't take in much oxygen because there isn't much in the air to begin with. So you don't sleep well. Diamox works (in a way that I can't remember) with the CO2 side of things, to help re-establish a sensible autonomic breathing schedule. If you are not sleeping though, you can help yourself drug-free by consciously breathing hard, fast and deep. I found that my instinct was to try to calm my breathing but I would just get really lethargic and slow. Once I started forcing my breathing I felt way more capable and strong. Rainier is not a very high mountain, but taking drugs so that you can fit it into a weekend trip without feeling like crap is to me a weird sense of priorities about mountaineering. edit to add that this is not my field of study and if anyone has contradictory info I would like to be corrected

I guess I missed the part where you actually asked for information?? so what do you want to know?

FWIW I have also done the knot thing on a 2 person rope. But since we didn't find any crevasses I didn't test it, and my 'rescue' plan was to just scream until a few of the other 15 rope teams on the glacier came over to haul us out, rather than prussiking anyways.

I think j_b's complaint on behalf of allison is just as valid as if allison complained herself. either ignore them both or listen to them both I don't care though. to j_b for standing up for something to Off_White for a lucid description of his thinks to Ray for being consistent the only thing I wish people would stop saying is "STFU" ... if you want to fight with each other for fun then why tell others to shut up? bring it!

mmm ... ghetto fries!

That sucks. punk cowards.

scan yours was it that Beal catalogue that had all the nifty equations and stuff? yeah study that. IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WAY TO LEARN TO BE A SAFE CLIMBER!!

'claiming' routes is poor form. but so is whining on the Internet about other people doing it. did you have a fun day? what else did you climb? were you challenged? was the weather nice? did you see any cool birds or lizards? ... or is your only worthwhile recollection this brief encounter with a dimwit.

I got a pair of these this winter. I wear them without the liners and they were much warmer than I was expecting. They were pretty stiff at first, but the leather softened up. I didn't have them leak at all, but I was only wearing them for short ice-cragging stuff not burying them in snow or whatnot. I've heard that they aren't all that waterproof unless you seam seal the fingers and wax the leather palms. I don't really care if my hands get wet as long as they stay warm though. One of my main complaints was that the wrists and cuffs don't seal very tightly and the barrel-lock on the cuff is HUGE! Also if your hands get a little damp the permanent liner can invert when you pull out and then it's a pain to get back in. If you can get them for a similar price to some decent snowboard gloves it's probably an OK deal ... it's not like they are the bomb, but they're not awful.

I went to a summer camp at CFB Cold Lake and got a tour of those CF-18s, and I learned that they are made of plastic and can easily be taken down with a bow and arrow . The person who did the best in the other part of the camp that I was not at even got a joyride in one as a prize ... lucky!

behind the times. I think Canada has had some federal legislation similar since they were planning theat Kananaskis shindig post 9-11.

this is a good book

so this weekend then

Heat Transfer in Cold Climates, Virgil Lunardini. on hiatus is Words and Rules by Steven Pinker. I got the latest Joe Simpson as a present so that'll probably be next.

I bet there's a fair number of mortals willing to help with this that'll even let you eat a samwich while you listen

I declare this the last post in this thread. I dare you to not get the last word tomcat.

this thread needs this:

Pub Club fights never get ghettoized in Spray. I think a guy with a name like Bra-Meister would fit in well at Pube Club.

Clean Corner ?

only 15 more pages to go. Well done. I am sure we have only skimmed the surface of this extremely important topic.