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without knowing the details of the quoted '"pack out your shit" policy' it's a little hard to decide who I am supposed to be making fun of here. Like does this club have a policy of packing out regardless of location? ... or is this a specific case of a trip to Rainier or other blue-bag place?

the excuse is not necessarily the reason

I hope that if their future search is successful the news will be handled with more discretion by the media than was exercised in the initial days of the search and rescue effort 2 weeks ago. to first learn they were missing through radio and news reports, to see obituary announcements online while helicopters were still in the air searching ... to see that incredibly tasteless 'pun' of a headline in the Province ... I don't think any of us want a repeat of such thoughtlessness.

I prefer the more subtle stealth chest-beating that show up in the gear section sometimes ... " Oh yeah hexes are great, this one time when I was free-climbing the nose I slotted in a bomber #10 ... blah blah." the "is your hardest climb harder than my hardest climb?" approach lacks craftsmanship.

I think this is a dumb thread

your pity is misguided. dru and I climbed prussik in a day with light packs so we could spend the other 3 days of our long weekend climbing other things. we covered more ground and enjoyed more variety of scenery that way. we enjoyed the sunset and the animals and everything but we enjoyed them on our feet rather than our asses. and considering I didn't get back to the road until 1am I also enjoyed a night under the stars with no-one around to distract me.

gee whiz this ain't rocket science. you should go play with some ropes or let erik show you like he says. if the knot can get pulled through the chains one way maybe you yank hard and pull it back through the other way and then your rope isn't fixed anymore? sometimes the ring or loop or whatever is big enough that the knot and the biner both can get pulled through, clipping the other side prevents disastah too much theoretical wanking ... you get the gist go play with some ropes and test the idea.

the biner is backing up in case the knot squeezes through the rap-rings

what's a professional rope cut? whipper on a sharp edge? you guys are scared of weird things. I got a taker already ... the rest of you buzz off

I am considering getting a 8.3x60 dry edelrid livewire and cutting it in half. Anybody want to split it with me? brand new from the store and everything. the cost to you is ~$45US includes shipping. PM if interested

i tink you have hosed your rap there erik. cause to rap the fatty the knot's gotta be on the far side and if then you hitch a biner on the fatty on the near side and clip the skinny you just end up with two fixed ropes you have to put the biner on the side you are gonna pull no?

weren't there some other posts on this thread before? I saw some I thought were funny and harmless. I guess someone must have been deeply offended though. I wonder why this particular researcher seems to focus in on rock-climbing related studies, first Niagara Escarpment, now Wisconsin. I think he even posted here a few times asking for other info. Is he a climber himself and trying to assuage some catholic guilt? it is curious. The quote in the article that raised my eyebrows was the rather dissmissive one by the Access Fund person ... just one study ... who cares about the snails anyways ... too small to eat.

I vote Tacoma

rock climbing cuts mollusk diversity a new study from Wisconsin by the same team which studied climber impact on Niagara Escarpment flora.

who is Generation X 1965-1975 alpineK you don't make the cut - baby boomer

notably why? because it turns the whole issue into a cowardly troll? uh huh.

I have added a photo of John to the photo gallery.

people do it. We can hook you up with partners though

looking at the issue purely from the perspective of krushing the rock and enlarging pin scars, hammering them in does some damage, but hammering them out again does a lot more. Who is the first person in this thread to suggest going up and removing the offending pins?

http://www.prudentialmikewest.com/mwimages/L2676.htm what's a 1031 tax exchange? I will build many buildings and I will not let you gapers climb on MY crags

Is there a real estate listing for this property somewhere? Maybe a map?

full reach is nice for bolt ladders and fixed gear too. Hook the piece and jack yourself up. Also overhangs and roofs. If you make it too short you can't use it long. If you decide it's too long then chop it off. It can get tangly for sure, I tie a bighted overhand for the stopper knot and clip that off to the side sometimes. They are pretty versatile but not a book-learning widget. Go out and use it and figure it out.

the Braesyde parking was temporarily closed last month while the insurance was renewed. It is open again now.

YMMV but I use (amount to tie into belay loop) + (fully extended arm) + (enough to wrap around hand to yank) + (amount to tie a stopper knot) cluster shmuzter

I think if you dig into those Fish techweenie pages you get some good explanation of why high ratio mechanical advantage systems are not the greatest idea for live hauling. In typical Fish style it uses phrases like "pop yer buddy's head clean off!" or something like that.