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What about doing calf raises on the edge of a stair? That's how I've always done them. Terminal if you're pushing 400 lbs on the machine, you're a harde man and probably don't need to work those calves any further. Just drink some more beer to give the rest of us a chance to catch up.

Yeah, but their heads were too big to fit in small cracks. Kept floating away too.

I have a couple of older Kong keylock ovals that I use for chocks- they work great. Not suprising since Kong invented that style gate. They're just harder to find in the shops than Petzl's.

Try keeping your chalks, nuts, hexes on spirits. They won't get hung up on the gate when you unclip them.

If you're looking for some Aliens (even offsets) Pagan Mountaineering in Utah has them in stock (www.paganmountaineering.com). Haven't had much luck finding the sizes I needed locally and figured others might be having the same problem.

I found some competition on www.pubclub.com when I tried to find the details for the Northlake Pizza place yesterday. That shit is national.

Looks like we may be in for a weather change on Sunday. Have fun out there.

In winter I think the reason is generally access. The hike in is much longer than the standard ridge/gulch route when the road is closed. Other than that the only reason I can think of is that it is more technical, which is a bonus for someone with the skills because you'll likely have the whole route to yourself. I think in winter Shasta sees more skier traffic than climbers/skiers who want to get to the summit.

And it was killer all weekend too! One of the best I've had in awhile.

Definately spend the few extra $ and get Revivex not the TxDirect stuff. It works so much better and lasts a lot longer than other DWR sprays/washins.

I'd check out MiraZyme. It's an enzyme rinse that kills a lot of critters that make outdoor gear smell. You mix it in your bathtub and soak your stuff in it, then hang dry it. I'd be hesitant to wash my tent in harsh chemicals. Here's the schpiel from McNett's website. They're the same people that make Seamseal. "MiraZyme™ Odor Eliminator is a powerful blend of natural enzymes and microbes used to remove odors caused by mold, mildew and bacteria. The McNett Corporation has identified, separated and reproduced a unique blend of 10 naturally occurring and highly adapted enzymes, microbes and other organic ingredients designed to identify and destroy odor. MiraZyme is extremely versatile, quickly and effectively removing odor and organic debris from a wide variety of clothing, footwear, outdoor and sports gear, and more. Mirazyme is completely safe for the environment, leaving only carbon dioxide and water as by-products."

A cam hook will work better to get into the hand crack. Pick one up at Feathered Friends for $9 on your way there. It'll come in handy on many of the lower town wall pitches unless you either do a lot of back cleaning or have 2-3 sets of everything.

Here's how it looked a few weeks ago. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/showphoto.php?photo=165

I've only done the first two pitches of Green Dragon. I recall wanting a set of offset cams on the first pitch. Some of the placements wouldn't take offset nuts and the cams were kinda sketchy because they weren't very good placements. If anyone has some offset aliens they want to sell send me a pm.

Don't flatter yourself CrazyJZ. I could care less if it's in Seattle and I get to attend, or if its on the Eastside and I don't. Drink where you want to. This is a public board where we get to provide our opinions about where to meet. Don't turn this into some gender conflict or political discussion about sexual politics. Why do you think there are so few women who show up on a regular basis? Attitudes like yours! Sorry ChucK. Don't fell like hanging out with all the BS discussed here this week.

Actually Dwayner, the location (other than being outside Seattle) has little to do with my thoughts on not showing. I think I have a very good record of attending non-Seattle pub clubs. Even the one in T-town when my fellow Seattle chicks and chumps held a "secret" Seattle "drink night" in protest of the drive. Since I have class until 8:30 pm, driving from N Seattle to Redmond means I won't get there until after 9pm. I recall the last couple of Eastside pub clubs broke up after the locals left before 10pm. So basically it's a matter of time drinking with the buddies. If it's in a Seattle location I can make it before 9pm very easily, have a few drinks and still get home at a reasonable hour (8:00 am lectures suck). If it's outside Seattle, I can't make it until April when I don't have a night class. Sooo. Have fun guys. See ya next week. Drink a few pints for me. I'll enjoy sipping a couple shots of Glen Livet at home to top off my day.

LOL! I'm sure you scored some big points for making it through the flick though. Now can you cash them in to go climbing...

I vote for somewhere in Fremont or Ballard. Unless there are a lot of votes and promises to show from the East side crowd. But if it's the East side I won't show anyways. Too far to go for brews at 9:00 pm since the crowd breaks up at 9:30 from past experience. So how about the Ballard Alehouse? I will need a few brews tomorrow night after bio lab, a chem mid-term, a court date to sue a true jackass, then more class tomorrow evening... Hey Klenke - Pub club is on TUESDAY not MONDAY. Pick your parents up tonight and then ditch them for a few hours tomorrow evening and come drink beers.

Free camping and free beer...in the fall when it's not so crowded. If it gets any bigger we'll need 2 kegs. Seriously though Matt, what sort of "involvement" is the AAC looking for? I thought about attending the meeting, but thought they were looking for club organization stuff. Don't have any available time for that sort of thing right now...

Suprised you guys haven't dis'd Adventure yet. Not a great mag but it's got enough entertainment for the price of a subscription. And you get a free pocket knife/wine bottle opener.

Didn't say she was a talented writer or that it was any better than the other books on the 96 climb. Just another perspective...

When you do, keep in mind that Boukreev's book is written based on FIRST HAND experience from a highly trained high-altitude mountaineer. Whereas, Krakauer's book was written based on SECOND HAND information from lesser-trained individuals and the conjecture of a man who was passed out during the whole incident (himself). For another perspective add Lene Gammelgaard's book "climbing High" to your list. She was part of Scott Fisher's group and gives one more first hand account of what happened up there. After reading all three books I personally think Krakauer's motives are suspect. It underscores how there is no "truth" we each have our own "reality" based on what we experience.

Yep. It's unfortunate though in my opinion...but that's another thread topic. I talked to one of my climbing friends about how to handle non-climber conversations about climbing a few years ago after repeatedly being asked by business clients if I had read "Into Thin Air" once they found out that I climb. He made a good point that unfortunately non-climbers whose only view into our world is sh**y climbing lit or movies will think they understand because they don't know any better. Which is more frustrating than people who know nothing. Helping these peole understand really isn't our problem as a community unless there are serious issues on the table (access, fees for rescue, etc.). Unless it's a person/relationship we value it can be a wast of time and they probably don't really care. For people we care about, helping them "get it" will be better in the long-run because we'll be able to relate, don't complain when we're gone all the time, and may even be interested in trying it. Erik's advice is great. Get them out there to try it. What have you got to lose. You can possibly increase the number of belay slaves you have access to. As for people you care about who "hate" the sport/pusuit/lifestyle (however you relate to climbing). No real advice here. I've helped my parents deal with it by talking about how I manage risk. I've been less successful with significant others. Basically it's tricky in my experience to have a relationship with a non-climber and pursue climbing as more than a casual activity.

Sounds great David! Thanks for all the research. See ya there after my class.

What time does the band hit the stage? Is there a separate room we can hide in? If they start before 9 or 10, perhaps we should change the venue to the Owl & Thistle. David Parker would that work for you?