chelle

It's the "ping" when on a camhook, with another one below ya that gets to me.

Okay, well I guess that one is out then. I guess I left before it got too bad. Any other thoughts? Maybe that place in Wedgewood that has the nice separate room. Mattp what was that place called?

Dave - what was the name of that place on 65th that we went to back in January? Next to the teriyaki place I think.

Welcome to the PNW JSC! Glad to have more chicks around. Unlike the guys looking for a date, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Send me a pm with some info about what you want to climb. I've found that "alpine" has a wide range of meanings (snow slogging to long sufferfests on exposed ridges). Michelle

DFA's SO actually did get in trouble with some uppity feminist lady at work a while back when she made the grievously insensitive mistake of referring to women as "chicks." Hard to imagine why a woman would say something so patently offensive! DFA - let you SO know that some chicks think it's a great word to describe athletic fun persons of the female persuasion. But I get in trouble for using that term sometimes too... Some chicks are just uptight.

Careful on that Greenlake navigation on the weekends. I hear it gets pretty complex, especially if the sun's out.

Made me laugh twice today.

if you want to be a strong climber 25% is way too fat. it is dead weight because it doesnt help you pull. maybe if you are into peaks and you need it to keep warm. but if you are sereious about training you should not be above 20 and better 15%. Yeah, but if you're a woman getting your body fat % that low is not healthy in the long run. Being able to crank when you're 50 without breaking a bone is far better than 15% body fat and cranking v9...

Thanks Vegebelay. That helped. not "really" in the mountains. But I got shut down on a hike up to a temple in Thailand (1000 something stairs). Surrounded by monkeys. They set up a diversion, flanked us from behind, and then stole anything they could grab while I tried to take photos. It was pretty funny once I got down the stairs.

Okay. Beginning of the new quarter, it's all review 'til next week. Nothing too entertaining is going on this here bored... I need some entertainment boyz and galz!!! So...what is the funniest/strangest thing that's ever happened to you in the mountains.

Jon, the pricing isn't exact yet, but figure $32,000 non-negotiable. No dickering...just pay yo money and quit yer bitchin'. Each local dealer will be alloted possible 5 this year. You have to get on a list, and in my case it cost $1000 deposit. They should hit the lot in June. There will not be ANY just for sale. They have to be pre-purchased. My bro has the 2002 model and it is a fast little machine. He paid $23k. That's a big increase to get a car that's one second faster 0-60mph off the line.

Embarassed to admit it... Howard Jones, Concord Amplitheathre, 1986

Details? Okay. I dug the article out of my files. Skiing Magazine Sep 2002, p. 162. There are actually 2 studies. The researcher at UW is named Erik Swenson. He took X-rays and measured fluid levels of 16 subjects within 14 hours of topping Monte Rosa (previous studies waited 24-48 hours after the onset of symptoms - found fluid in the lungs and inflammation in the lungs and assumed inflamation caused HAPE). Swenson found fluid and no inflammation. His conclusion, inflammation does not cause the fluid buildup, therefore anti-inflammatory drugs may not be useful in treating/preventing HAPE. Swiss researchers (Urs Scherrer) then studied 37 climers who had a history of HAPE, gave 18 a puff of salmeterol and 19 a puff of placebo. The studied how the lungs cleared sodium and by extension water from the lungs. Only 6 climbers in the study group showed signs of HAPE; compared to 14 in the control. Someone with access to a medical journal library may be able to find the original journal articles. Skiing doesn't say where the findings were published, but this looks interesting. Especially to someone who has asthma and likes to chase big mountains.

No experience with Ginsing, but have heard/read that Ginko Biloba works. I think I read an article in Backpacker Mag about two years ago.

So we've had some good discussion about Diamox. I read about a study a guy at UW did last year to determine if Salmeterol (an asthma drug - subject sin the study were not asthmatics) helped to reduce the incidence of AMS on people who ski at high altitudes (the alps). He conculded that it did. Anyone know of any other info about asthma and high altitidue climbing?

Nice troll. Hope the weather works out for you.

I think that's called a modified goal. It's also how Twight and the extreme guys justify climbing a particular line and not summiting the peak.

DPS - What are you planning to do with your duffle? I have had great success with the Eagle Creek duffles. No logos and also lockable, made of cordura. They have survived trips on mules, yaks and such. Downside is they are not waterproof. My NF duffle did not survive 3 days riding strapped to a mule - coating wore off and the thing had several holes in it. A few years ago, they apparently changed from using cordura to save money and just coat heavy weave nylon with the waterproofing plastic. Then they balked at repairing it. My take is that make a nice disposable duffle. Built to survive one trip.

Wayne you spilled the beans... Had a great time there last week. Sorted gear for the route in 70 degree sun on Sunday, carried loads Monday and fixed a pitch, and by Tuesday weather was definately coming in. Wed 4 in snow. Didn't send that beautful line but learned a lot and had a blast. Next time. Spring weather in the Valley is fickle. Be prepared for anything. Also the East Butress of El Cap will likely be wet that time of year. Didn't read the whole thread so I don't know which EB you plan to do... Now back to school...

The Swiss.

Thanks Bronco. I needed a few laughs after studying chemistry for the past 6 hours.

ahahaha when we went to cali last week or was it the week b4....damn brain!! we had bannas in plain view when buddy asked and we said nope. we passed the station and distel was like "dood the bananas are in plain view!" pointless government job! In Cali they're more concerned with fruit grown in someone's backyard than stuff bought at the grocery store. Brought in some apples and grapes last year. Told the guy yep. Bought them a few hours ago in Roseburg at the Safeway. He waved me through. No problema.

Didn't realize my computer was working offline until I posted this...

Tacoma! We were talking about T-town last week but put it off 'till Dwayner got back. So tomorrow we should be drinking in Tacoma.

So how about a Tacoma Pub Club this week? The Swiss or E9? I believe Dwayner is back in town for a couple days. Time for some !