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The weather is supposed to be nice tomorrow. How about we have pub club at the Ballroom? Bring your warm coats for after sun goes down.

From Sky Valley Rock, 2000 edition Green Dragon pitch 2: The long corner is mostly clean aid. (C2/3) Like the first pitch, this is often wet early in the year. This is the one pitch that might require a couple of pins. So...

Never claimed to be a hardwoman. Just trying to push myself and get up a mutipitch aid climb. Also I didn't start a debate about it I simply stepped forward and said yeah I did it. I didn't chest beat about it, didn't advocate it, but if the route is a clean only route, that should be reflected in the guidebook. From my research on the route my understanding was that it is okay to nail on the second pitch. Am I experienced enough to make a call on placing a pin? I don't know. The one thing I do know is that I am experienced enough to make a judgement call about my own safety while on lead and on how to properly protect myself if I am bailing off something I got schooled on. Maybe you don't agree on the value of life, but my life is more valuable than a climbing ethic or a $100 of gear (which is what was left up there when I bailed.) So here's the whole story of what happened to hopefully end the debate. I didn't have to say a damn thing and I still don't care what you Monday morning hardmen climbers (aid or not) think. You weren't there and you may have even done something similar under the circumstances. I had cam hooks and did several camhook moves in a row where I could find placements for them between either cam/nut placements or the fixed pins that were already there. I took a fall off a cam hook that popped and the hook I was previously on caught my fall. I felt comfortable enough at that point that I continued up. I put in one pin when the camhooks I had didn't fit. Then when I decided to bail I placed another pin to back up one that was there. It shifted and flexed and so I moved over to set an anchor in a crack to the right. I didn't think to clean that second pin before moving over there to see if I could get an anchor in and then had trouble getting back to it. At that point I just wanted down. I was running out of daylight and tired of the intensity of the route. I lowered cleaning the rest of my gear as I went down. Enough discussion. You've all said your piece. It's over. Peace out!

I like the co-op idea. I saw the for sale sign this weekend and thought how cool that would be as a backyard. Too bad corporate America and I parted ways last year... We've been joking about doing the same with the Index Tavern. We could have two really cool spots to climb and hang.

It's a tight race with only 8 people voting... But the Ballard Alehouse is in the lead by a vote over Hale's and The Sloop. So in the interest of settling this thing for all of us...The Ballard Alehouse wins. See ya'll there sooner or later...

Just a bunch of CC.com folks getting together each Tuesday night to drink beer and talk about climbing, make plans, etc. This is the weekly debate about where to go...

no everyone voted for the GOclub in Olympia. See ya there tonight although those 34oz brews at the sloop sound good...are they still $5??Hhmm...guess I missed that pole. The 34 oz brews at the Sloop are still $5 for micros. I think macrobrews are cheaper.So here's a poll:Earth Day Pub ClubBallard AlehouseHale's BreweryThe Sloop TavernSomewhere in OlympiaSome other yuppy "fern bar"

Yeah whatever. See ya when you get home in a couple weeks.

So are we drinking at the Ballard Alehouse or what?

Thanks Matt. It really was a last resort. I did plenty of cam hooking and even scraped at the crack with my nut tool for several minutes trying to find the next cam hook placement. We only brought them along because of the comment in the guidebook. Guess I wasn't ready for C3 in the wet conditions. When it's dry I'll try hooking through that awkward face section.

We could make a card for him at pub club.

I believe both companies have good reputations. I've taken trips with MM when I was learning to climb and thought they did a great job.

I'll fess up to putting two of the pins in two weekends ago. Yeah it can go clean if it is dry, but the guide book says that if it's wet, people will nail on it. In one section I was already in my second steps and the next possible piece in the crack was at least 6 feet above me. Since I'm short it would've meant a dyno. I could see where you could maybe hook past it on the face, but with the slime and the fall I'd already taken I wasn't about to try it. I ended up finally bailing up a little higher but forgot to hammer out the two pins because I was pretty sketched and just wanted to get down before I puked on my belayer below because of so much adrenaline in my system. You weren't there and I don't really care what you think anyway! Flame on!

I agree Matt. Hales then Ballard Alehouse. The under 21ers left last time before 10 to study so they shouldn't be bummed if the rest of us carry on after 10 at a different locale.

Nice one Tex.

Can you put it in turbo mode to practice speed climbing?

Seems like the person who wrote the report is suffering from the same boredom/frustration that many people I've talked to today are afflicted with. Maybe it's a NW form of spring fever. Really want good weather...teased by periods of warmth and sunshine...slightly elevated mood levels and more smiles. Slapped back to PNW Spring reality by clouds, rain showers and winds, followed by ennui, frustration or general pissed-offness. Thank god it's Friday. Hopefully it will all be improving as the weekend goes on.

What grates on your nerves? - people clipping their nails.

When I worked I couldn't look at a lot of the stuff in spray 'cause of the corporate spies. They logged the stuff with "special" words. Some of the words used and pics people post could've gotten me fired.

Righto Josh. It's a bring your own kinda gig.

dkemp - I've got an extra axe I'll sell you for a fraction of that.

Owl & Thistle sounds like a plan. We'll have a toast to send off the IRS parade around 11:45 pm followed by cheers and a band. AlpinK and Mattp will be the stars of the hour with their mail in one hand and a pint in the other.

a) I think if I didn't trust my SO to climb with another chick then we'd have bigger problems to deal with b) better to be with a climber c) would make every attempt to corrupt them to the trad side of life

Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder, UT. It was all a little foggy given that so much beer was consumed we were cut off.

Yeah! That Wedgewood place! (separate room? )! Not the place we went to when Timmy was here last month, but the place we didn't go to that Mattp suggested. But for the late tax filers, perhaps we should go to the Owl & Thistle. David Parker - are you gonna be able to come over and help plan the spring shin dig in the Methow?