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Has Winnie's slide gotten steeper? I recall it being about 40 degrees.

Absolutely beautfiul!

You are so right!!!

Happy b-day Muffy. But I have to say, don't worry, it just keeps getting better. 33 was better than 32 and 34 so far has been awesome.

Very cool. Nice to see people rockin' & rollin' at that age.

cascadeclimber's suggestion works for 5 too.

I've always had good service there and they put on some great slide shows with free beer for us climbers. Last year when I was buying a chest harness for aid climbing and wasn't sure if the one they had fit right, the guy helping me out unracked most of the climbing gear behind the counter so I could hang it on the harness and check the comfort. He didn't have to create a bunch of extra work for himself, but he did and I bought the harness.

Thank you Jon and JayB for spelling out a little more detail while I was at work with no access to the thread. And to others thanks for the endorsements. As Jon said this is still in the very early formation stage and people who are interested in participating should attend the meeting if possible. Spliffy, the WCC's goal is to maintain climbing access in WA state, which is a little different than representing WA climbers. If you are interested in being a part of the effort please come to the meeting and bring your friends. There is an agenda in the works and there is time scheduled for discussion, but it is not yet final enough to post. The purpose of this first meeting is to be informative about the issues and the reasons behind the idea of forming an organization, and to gather information about people's interest in participating and trying to get commitments about what people can do. Right now there are about a half a dozen people who are a core group behind the idea. Many have been very active in the climbing community and in working with land managers about access over the years. The WCC is not associated with cc.com, although as has been mentioned several of us are active on this board. We posted this notice on cc.com and a couple other online bulletin boards because we want to reach climbers in WA and the Internet is an efficient medium. There are also notices going into stores and climbing gyms in the next couple days. On a final note for tonight, I have a simple request. Please do your best to hold off on criticisms and personal attacks in this thread. What is really needed is cohesiveness and cooperation. There is a lot of work to be done and we would like to keep things positive and remain focused on what matters...maintaining access to the areas we like to climb in here in WA state. Thanks.

Attention WA climbers! The first general meeting of the Washington Climbers Coalition (WCC) will be held on July 20, 2004. The purpose of the meeting is to discuss current climbing access issues in WA and to guage interest in the WA climbing community for developing a group to address climbing issues with the Forest Service, other land management agencies, and private landowners. Who should attend: All climbers interested in maintaining climbing access in WA When: July 20, 2004 Time: 6:30 - 8:00 p.m. Location: The Good Shepherd Center, Room 221 Address: 4649 Sunnyside Avenue N., Seattle (Corner of Sunnyside Avenue N and North 50th Street in the Wallingford neighborhood) We look forward to good discussions about how to preserve climbing access for WA climbers!

Once again, The Washington Post published its yearly contest in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for various words. And the winners are: 1. Coffee (n.), a person who is coughed upon. 2. Flabbergasted (adj.), appalled over how much weight you have gained. 3. Abdicate (v.), to give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach. 4. Esplanade (v.), to attempt an explanation while drunk. 5. Willy-nilly (adj.), impotent. 6. Negligent (adj.), describes a condition in which you absent-mindedly answer the door in your nightgown. 7. Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp. 8. Gargoyle (n.), an olive-flavored mouthwash. 9. Flatulence (n.) the emergency vehicle that picks you up after you are run over by a steamroller. 10. Balderdash (n.), a rapidly receding hairline. 11. Testicle (n.), a humorous question on an exam. 12. Rectitude (n.), the formal, dignified demeanor assumed by a proctologist immediately before he examines you. 13. Oyster (n.), a person who sprinkles his conversation with Yiddish expressions. 14. Pokemon (n), A Jamaican proctologist. 15. Frisbeetarianism (n.), The belief that, when you die, your Soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck there. 16. Circumvent (n.), the opening in the front of boxer shorts.

Damnation on Castle is a favorite thrutch. Vector in Squamish was fun too.

You only live once. Do something that makes you happy.

inspiring reading there Wallstein. Thanks. Keep chasing the moment and enjoy it when you find it. It sounds like you are closer than you think.

As I get older I find I am laughing at myself more and more. Here's my latest... I am not mechanically minded by nature. But today I finally decided to switch the cleats on my old biking shoes to my new biking shoes (ok they are 3 years old, but they didn't have cleats so they're still new to me...) I've been kinda intimidated to screw it up 'cause I fired my in house bike mechanic (about 3 years ago) who led me to believe that all things to do with my bike were very complicated. I did build some really bomber shelves recently using power tools. I figured swapping out cleats can't be too hard. Anyways, I locate the screwdriver and remount the cleats one at a time to make sure I get them on the correct shoe. It really wasn't that hard. Just 7 screws and 2 plastic plates on each shoe. Feeling pretty proud of myself I decide to get my stuff together to ride to Green Lake to meet a friend rather than drive. Tires have enough air...check. Water bottle filled...check. Walking shoes in the messenger bag...check. Helmet...check. Ready to ride. I hop on the bike and try to click in my pedals and realize something is wrong. I had mounted the pedal cleats (my system is a 2 parter) backwards. Doh! Went back inside...found the screw driver and fixed them. Put screw driver into messenger bag and had a great ride and walk around the lake. What have you done lately to crack yourself up?

Agree with you PP that they will catch hell for their reasons. But honestly, I'd rather they realize that and call for help than see another person or two die on that route this year. Hopefully no one gets hurt during their rescue. My thoughts are with the volunteers and climbing rangers heading up there to save them.

I think I paid about $600 for the Bangkok-Kathmandu portion of my trip back in 98. Got the other portion using miles. I have had great luck in the past using a company called Airbrokers Int'l out of San Francisco for getting international tickets cheap. Give them a call. A couple years ago they set me and a friend up with tickets to Bangkok for $730 ea, 2 weeks before our trip. The best price I saw online at the time was about $1300.

No idea what the conditions are this year. Or what shape you guys are in, but average shape and elevation gain would dictate about 3 hours. When I climbed it in late June a few years ago there was snow just outside the horse camp which is just before all your elevation gain really starts.

RobBob - drinking on the plane will ensure a hangover. Maybe you are sensitive to sulfites.

Do you always have to be such a pain? Try and read the above posts Lammy. Sometimes you can find good cheap wine. Not everyone has a sugarmamma/daddy.

Good. Maybe they'll replace the currently really rude old dude with a nicer person. What happened to staffing campgrounds with college students interested in wildlife biology? Oh yeah, that was back when the campgrounds were actually part of the forest service, not some rip off consessionaire.

The sandstone at Peshastin Pinnacles has to be the worst "rock" I've ever climbed on.

Hohm - check your pms.

Sounds cool. Too bad I missed out on it during my last two trips up there.