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was thinking more about pre planned stop overs between J-burg and portland. Like staying at Pat's house in seattle. yeah, there is not much time before onset of tired and time to pull over, especially after 40. Maybe that is why older folks have RV's.

good one to have ticked off.

I've got the guide book that chris is talking about. has 8 pages on larabee park. If there is no longer a copy at WWU OC, then drop me a PM and I will get you a photocopy.

screw naps. have lots of friends along the i5 corridor and sleep for reals at their house instead. that way you can be social in the mornings. I got a tacoma and a bellingham connection.

guilty as charged.

the issue with single of the double ropes is the resistence to cutting over edges. Sounds like you are doing real rock routes with this setup. The usual terrain for single of the half ropes is routes with mostly fourth and bit of low low 5th class ground. If you are a real bad ass climber, then , maybe the 5.8 is like 4th class to mortals and the thin ropes would be ok. the other common way os to have one person tie into the middle and the other to tie into both ends and use 2 strands but the pitches are short. why not just get as real thin single? They got like 9.1mm singles out there.

alright you are really full of crap at night. max fill is 9 12awg thhn in 1/2 emt. table c.1 nec. And if I had to pull more than a full boat in a 1/2 emt, I would be kicking some ass or at least giving a verbal smack down. I never said homeruns where best as MC. you were talking about how EMT is cheaper than MC. If you want a real discussion, try to stay on track instead of jumping around to topics you think you know about. MC is widely available in 1,2 or 3 circuits. Don't know how much you have been working in the trade before your accident, but maybe you should get more experience before acting like you know everything. I don't even consider myself an expert compared to my co workers, but the flaws in your statements are easy to find. anyway I am done with this cute little blah blah of "look how smart I am". good luck in the field.

surprised that someone else hasn't jumped on board and given us flack for geeking out. maybe everyone else is climbing this fine weekend.

I may be wrong but I don't remember any discussion about exposed conductors. Talking about protection of conductors. I never said I never call them. It is not my job to, but the foreman's job to. he lays out where the PUD says the line is but it is a fairly broad area with estimates for depth. And you gotta get the line dug so you dig gently. The one time we hit a line, it wasn;t even on the PUD print for the facility. go figure. There is just no way around it. When you dig, you dig carefully. If it is not a power line, it is the plumbing, or data or irrigation or drainage or some other thing buried. The ground is full of crap. There is no way that running MC cable is more expensive than the labor intensive aspect of bending pipe and coming back later for the wire pull. Don't know about materials costs but I do know that it takes about 5 minutes to put in some 20 feet of MC cable and it takes 25 minutes to lay in the EMT and another 5 minutes to pull in the wire later on. ( for a complex framed wall with lots of typical wall BS to go around) 5 minutes labor vs 30 minutes labor at a bill rate of $60/hr. Plus 10' EMT (plus coupling and a 1 hole strap) costs about $6.5 at lowes plus the wire which is fairly cheap for 10'. So MC cable would have to run at more than $47 ($13 for pipe, $4 for wire, $30 for labor) to be considered "pricey". I seriously doubt that MC > $2.50/ft. (just checked lowes and it runs at 50 cents/ft) just as a side note since you brought it up, but I am a journeyman inside electrician with a admin cert so I have quite a bit experience with the NEC. I know exactly what you are talking about and I know how the industry works. I would be happy to buy you a beer sometime. FWIW, when you take your state exams, the NEC portion is easy. study like mad for the WAC/RCW test. That document is "wack".

you gotta really like your partner to go that distance and time and not get all pissy. once again, great job and keeping the stoke alive.

PUD don't know exactly where the lines are. They have a rough idea of where they are but not close enough when it is time to dig. Anyone who has done underground work knows this. NEC =national electrical code not notational elec code BS on the conduit for protection only. otherwise everything would be romex or MC cable which is protected. Why do commercial operations want emt over other cheaper alternatives? The answer is remodel and future upgrades (which means upsizing or adding wires ), not some greater protection offered by EMT. sorry y'all about the electrical geeky thang going on.

wire in conduit is meant to be able to change out the wire in the future. Pull it out the pipe and pull in a thicker one if need be. Xfmer to house is a example such as a need to upgrade the service. There is no real protection offered by PVC pipe if using a backhoe or a ditchwitch. (and ditchwitches are easily accessible to residential owners) Once the pvc pieces are flying, the wires are damaged. PVC would definitely protect from damage with a shovel but I doubt that a shovel could damage a wire anyway. From what I have seen, there is no checking for where the underground lines are before digging. Just some low wage laborer watching the bucket at it scrapes away successive layers of dirt. Lack of detailed print of line location and changes to terrain after first burial make it very hard to know where the lines really are. Just dig and rely on the insulation of the big rubber tires is the constructions game plan. I brought up the comments on fuses because there is a general misconception about the protection offered by breakers and fuses. have a good weekend all.

240 volts will f@#k you up. 120 volts can f#$k you up too. It is all about current (which is a function of resistance) and current path. small current through the heart will kill. Double the voltage and you double the amperage. (for same resistence) doubling the amperage and you double the chance of being killed. 240v is very dangerous. fuses and breakers are not there to protect people but protect the wiring and prevent fires. relying on fuses in case of electrocution is asking for being fried. I have done some underground work and it usually is in conduit (in commercial and industrial facilities) but I think that the PUD underground wires are direct burial. Which means there is no protection of the wire beyond the outer and inner jackets. I can't imagine the miles and miles of PVC pipe to do the underground work, plus the pull junction boxes. Our backhoes have cut a few of the PUD lines and it is freaky when we do.

haven't been there for a long time, but with it's sunny aspect and angle of exposed rock, it should be melted out. not the valley approach though. I think they plowed out the parking area very recently.

another data point. we came back from a trip in the bugs and the little bastards broke through our fencing defenses and did some snacking underneath. lots of porc needles around but the car ran fine. Luckily they didn't chew on anything important. put the fencing up and be anal about the sturdiness of it.

claim ignorance and ask forgiveness afterwards if caught. or buy a day pass. I "think" you need one.

are these left handed carabiners? (kidding)

sounds like the block that has been sorta lousy for a while. Does it have a chalked X on it? If so, I think it would be possible to put it in a haul bag and lower it to the ground. maybe have someone watching the base while the rock is trundled down is a good idea too.

if you want sarcasm, post in spray. if you want newbie advice, post it here. But your desired mix is like a peanut butter and mayo sandwich, it just don't taste right.

how do these grades compare to darrington slabbage fests?

Haven't had a resole in many years. I either don't climb enough to wear out the soles or my technique is so flawless that no rubber is lost while climbing. I think I need to climb more.

south side of mt baker. just left of the easton glacier near the camping areas. keep going up till you find a steep enough place with good runout.

from john frieh's facebook page "A pic from Colin Bohannan mid-send of Mt. Stuart's Girth Pillar over the weekend...nice job guys!" mystery solved!

very nice. now if more people could get gear overcammed and stuck, we could have a alpine sport climb.

Wasn't sure if maybe you or Gene weren't echoing that shot intentionally... you give us too much credit for brains.