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The 3000 mile figure was for the model, not the actual distance to europe and back. And Murray, you dumbass, that figure is PER PASSENGER. The fact remains, Jim; your trip is not one of necessity and a huge amount of fuel will be consumed to satisfy the demands of your 'hobby'. In fact, the exhaust will be pumped directly into the atmosphere at around 35,000 feet w/o the benefit of a catalytic converter, smog pump, charcoal filter, etc. (No difference in CO2 emission, I realize.) Don't let this rain on your little parade, though. All those other Americans don't really need their SUV's to the same degree that you do your trip.

Hey Jim! You still gonna hop on that big 747 and fly off to climb in Spain this summer? I believe the fuel consumption profile of a fully loaded 747-400 (3000mi flight w/ 1 T/O and 1 landing) is one liter per person - per 19km. I'll leave the math up to you, but suffice it to say; that's a whole shit-load of kerosene! How dare you lecture here about excess.

"Don't cry for me, Argentina!" Ok....I've gotta side with the paranoid libs on this one. I ate some serious crow back when I actually believed that a western US generating capacity shortage was underway....when in fact Enron was manipulating the market. The same is obviously now going on with oil companies and I call bullshit on this whole China/supply/demand scenario. At the same time, I think those who want to blame those 'evil Republicans/BushCo' assign too much power to one man. Most big oil companies are multi-national, but I certainly think Bush should be using the bully-pulpit to beat these guys down...and so far, he's not. I think it's just a major case of price-fixing. Possibly one of the biggest $$$ anti trust fiascos of all time.

NO CO2 EMISSIONS

No CO2 Emissions

Clearly you don't understand the theory of the feeding frenzy. The sharks smell Delay's blood in the water. Maybe Nancy P will be next; I don't know. ...and exactly who are these sharks you're talking about? The Liberal Media perhaps? If it were not for FOX and other non-mainstream outlets, few would know how common these ethical lapses are...on BOTH sides. But I suppose you're only interested in drinking the media shark-fed KoolAid tonight.

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Thanks! That's what I wanted to know. I'm thinking that it might be melted out by Memorial Day since the road end is at 4500 feet. I'm wanting to take my son up White Salmon Glacier as a two day...hopefully we can avoid those nasty lahars!

He won't. Especially now that the ethics commission is back in business and as many as sixty Democrats (including Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) and fellow Republicans are guilty of exactly the same thing. One more thing: The only reason that your buddy, Jim McDermott, hasn't been exiled from the House for his ethical/legal lapses re that famous illegal taping incident, is precisely because the ethics commission has been inactive. Note to Democrats: Be careful what you wish for!

Foraker, Sounds to me like you're a big fan of Mr V.I. Lenin? Or are you just being your usual antagonist self? http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0226320618/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-1569030-4935358#reader-page http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0674076087/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-1569030-4935358#reader-link

You must live near the Canada border. Down where I live, the 's only come in gray.

Has anyone used this approach for White Salmon Glacier? More specifically, is the road normally suitable for a 2wd car?

Save the bears!! Let's all go shark fishin' with Rachael!

That this question emerged from the dark recesses of your mind represents absolute proof that you do not surf porn when you are bored.

IF I SAY IT'S SAFE TO SPRAY, IT'S SAFE TO SPRAY!

This is not a concern for Dru. The Canadian government does not allow males to possess testicles.

The drainage/valley. The spire on the left.

Compare the death toll of the dissappeared to the ongoing misery in Colombia where decisive action wasn't taken in time. Of course I'm taking the humanity out of the equation, but it makes for an interesting 'what if'.

My vehicle has a 2 liter engine that puts out 210 horsepower and gets 34mpg hwy. But the name-plate would probably earn me the disdain you speak of, JayB.

Too bad you weren't the same skeptic back when Clinton and Ron Brown were selling missile staging technology to the Chinese for campaign ca$h. Or bombing the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. Or killing refugees in convoys. Or civilians on commuter trains. Or janitors in aspirin factories. Or children in goofy religious compounds. Or when Terri McAlluf, DNC chair, made a cool 18 million on Global Crossing stock just before they went under...... ..... ..... Your indignation remains curiously selective. This, no doubt, because you were too busy picking those research dollars up off the floor that your man was tossing out like chump change.

I liked Peron too. And Fujimori. They all took heroic action to save their nations from communism.

The goat pic has Mount Stone's main peak in the background. And you're right, that's the snow apron below West Peak Olympus. Here's a picture I took of Constance N Face from the summit of Warrior.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7550964/ Take note ye intellectuals! You are not above the law.... Calif. student gets 8 years for SUV vandalism Sentenced for 2003 spree that torched Hummers, other gas guzzlers Updated: 9:45 p.m. ET April 18, 2005 LOS ANGELES - An aspiring physicist was sentenced to more than eight years in prison on Monday and ordered to pay $3.5 million for his role in a spree of arson and vandalism that targeted gas-guzzling Hummers and other sports utility vehicles. Rejecting pleas for clemency from William Cottrell, a 24-year-old doctoral candidate in physics at the California Institute of Technology, U.S. District Judge Gary Klausner added more time to the sentence after finding that Cottrell was trying to sway consumers with his anti-SUV message. The slogans Cottrell spray-painted onto vehicles included “Fat Lazy Americans,” “No Respect for Earth” and “SUV = Terrorism.” Cottrell, who admitted only spray-painting and testified he did not know that two friends were bringing Molotov cocktails, promised he would never break the law again. The two friends have fled the country to avoid prosecution, authorities said. “I want nothing more than to be a physicist,” Cottrell said. “I would do anything to earn any leniency the court could show in this matter.” Cottrell was convicted last November on seven counts of arson and one count of conspiracy related to a 2003 vandalism and firebombing spree that targeted about 125 large sports utility vehicles at four Southern California dealerships and a few homes. Lawyers mount autism defense: Cottrell’s attorneys asked for the five-year mandatory minimum sentence saying that their client has Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism marked by impaired ability to understand social situations. They said it affected his judgment and kept him from backing out when his two friends started lighting Molotov cocktails. But Judge Klausner said high intelligence should work against a defendant, not in his favor. “What a talent to have wasted,” Klausner said. “There’s only one person to blame for that, and I’m sure Mr. Cottrell understands that it’s him.” Attorneys estimated that Cottrell, who had faced a mandatory minimum sentence of five years, could spend six years in jail, including credit for time served. “The defendant engaged in conduct to send a political message,” said federal prosecutor Beverly Reid O’Connell. “He’s a scheming, arrogant person who is disdainful of the law and the justice system.”

From slides: I have a few others, but they're not taken vetically.

Don't worry, Dru. That recent swelling in your belly is probably just your liver finally paying you back for all the abuse you've dished it over the years. It's more likely you just need a transplant and not an abortion.