Drederek

Wear your orange next time, it'll be open for hunting season.

Looks like this might be it for awhile, I hope I'm wrong. The friction was superb tonite, allowing me to redpoint Floater for the first time in a few years. Thank you Off for owning and sharing such a wonderful place. Duke

Occasionally and yes quite often.

PDX is proud of you boys!

Its not just easy climbs that are getting trashed. I cleaned up all this flagging tape off route 1a on mt washington, a trail thats been used for at least 40 years with no difficulties.

What this fellow is pointing out, right at you!, is that what he's got going is just a more blatant form of sport-climbing: permanently-established convenience fixtures that appeal to the masses who prefer presumed safety and a short learning-curve rather than the "leave little trace" ethic practiced by most other outdoor pursuits. Ain't it ironic how so many sport-climbers probably object on environmental or aesthetic grounds to via ferratas....something not all that dissimilar to what they themselves perpetuate? Yah...I'm pretty sure that's the point he's making, but he probably won't subscribe to cc.com because he's unwilling to be ruthlessly attacked for having a minority opinion on this site. So does that make him smarter than you?

I think they pretty much come marked that way. Chalked x's on loose rocks isn't even in the top ten stupidest things peeps do at the crags.

This is exactly why we need diversity in bolting styles, perhaps some peeps like to have the exact same level of adventure in their climbing experience every time but I don't. Some times I'm feeling strong and want to push myself and other times I just want to do some moves with no or little commitment. Every climb is different, some may need many bolts to maximize enjoyment, some may need just a few or none. I'd rather see fewer bolts in good places than evenly spaced ones.

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I estimated more like 80 switchbacks going down!

Nothing wrong with not wanting to downclimb "4th class" moves in the Olys, Wishbone!

Yer a good egg, Keenan! Where is that hole you guys crawled thru? I've never found that.

Good to hear that monkeys off yer back, I'd Haggard a guess you're glad too. Now you're ready for Constance in a day!

So let us know how it went, I know the road is in good shape.

There is lots of free camping at the Tieton. Almost every road going north off the highway has nice pullouts. In sept you may be competing with hunters for them. There are also some nice spots across the river from the highway, accessed from a road heading west that starts just after the highway crosses a bridge to the south side of the river. Have heard the chunkyard is mostly easy sport stuff.

Different situations require different solutions - there is no perfect length.

Nice camping spot! Thanks for the stoke! We won't get there again till september but I'm ready to go now.

Its not even as hard as the Arch.

As if climbers don't do the same??? They also seem to have no problem leaving their metallic "poop" every few feet on any convenient piece of rock. (I may have missed a few.) Yeah, I hate it when I get in my car and smell one of those little metal thingys stuck to the bottom of my shoe!

The Bombers of course!

d = not too? Sorry, hope you get your rope back.

I haven't climbed MJD since sometime late in the last century but I do not recall it being too overgrown. Pretty sure we stayed with or near the corner till it petered out then angled for the belay where Orbit goes thru the large roof. One thing I remember very well was having to decide whether to brush off the tick I spotted crawling up my arm or lean into the corner and clip the second bolt. About a half a nanosecond later I sent the nasty little bugger cartwheeling down towards my unsuspecting belayer and then made the clip!

I wouldn't use a tape glove at JT. I like to protect my palms when boulder hopping and descending. I've never had a problem with the tape sold in climbing shops. I think the idea of a tape glove is more appealing than the actuality.

Hola! Senor Blanco, how fares the cliff?