Peter_Puget

See this place needs a rock climbing forum! Here is an abbreviated hit list of my favs mostly at the bottom of the valley. Arch Rock Anticpation Blotto (AKA Axis) Gripper New D Torque Converter Cookie Hardd Crack A Go Go Red Zinger Meat Grinder Nabisco Wall all variations including Aftershock Start Catchy with Catchy corner Pinky Paralysis –my fav TR Fish Crack Moratorium A three pitch semi traversing route new moratorium whose name I forget really good. Texas Chain Saw Massacre Hot Line All the mid height cracks on the Rostrum PP

This Link has decent foam. It took three days from when the order was placed until the merch arrived. I split my order with a friend and for $17.00 my pad is like new. ATTN MODS: This post would be perfect for a rock climbing forum. PP

Hammocks work just fine for a night or two hanging on the wall any more than that and you will really appreciate the portaledge. I have spent nights both on the Chief and On El Cap in both a hammocks of my own design and a Forrest model. I designed my own rainfly.. I even spent a few nights in the rain once with wet snow. Wet wet wet! Last time in the hammock I swore I would never spend another night in it. But let’s say I was climbing a route on MT Watkins and planning on spending one night out, I would definitely bring the hammock rather than lugging a ledge. If I were planning on climbing a long El Cap route w/o ledges, I would buy a portaledge. If I was planning on starting off on some grade Vs, I would consider saving money and buying a hammock. The Fish econoledge might be a good deal except I do not believe it has a rainfly so it is best suited to team up with someone with a double hammock w/ fly. It looks like the hammock in the picture has buckles on all the straps. Make sure they are robust and not cheap. Scottp is right when he says hammocks are tight in the shoulders even with spreader bars but my main problem was my feet hanging off the edge and as I slept the hammock slowly turning into a chair. Aything I wrote above notwithstnding I have never slept well in a hammock. PP EDITT addition: If I was climbing when bad weather was to be expected I would never use a hammock.

I think the ratings are for the most part pretty good. The rock does require a different technique and that may be responsible the “stiff” ratings. Only one route I have climbed strikes me as being over rated in the area: Wildcat Crack. The thing that bugs me is the sometimes funky pro. The cracks often flare inward and do not constrict in a nice curve. Think of Paul Maul - no jamming, more like hole plugging, plus nuts are crazy on that route. If you spend a lot of time climbing at 38 or Vantage at least in the easier grades (5.0-5.10) you will end up with very distorted view of how ratings work at other areas. Oh yea, Stress Management seemed more like 5.10 to me and is given a 5.9. Overall Vantage PP

Gym is in Portland!

No pads here! http://www.rockclimbing.com/photos.php?Action=ListPhoto&PhotoID=13425

The image on your posts looks like the mask in this picture. Are you a furry? PP

In the mid 70's Jim Collins use to hype climbing stairs. He called stair training "Pyschometrics" because he trained that way to make the second FA of Psycho Roof in Eldorado. PP

Galaxy - Once a friend and myself tried climbing OS, Orbit and Galxy in a day. We did the first two and then bailed on Galaxy because it is a bad route. After getting down I regretted it because I knew it was so bad I would never go back and missed the opportunity to tick it off. PP

LOL Trolls? not me but since Off Belay didn't start until the 70's I sense a troll from you silly! Lowe cams were a single cam device spring loaded but no trigger bar.

I like the parts about crack jumars and clean climbing. And of course all the hip crowds. Some things never change! PP

So here I am opening boxes and digging thru closets for old mags trying to research a summer project and I come across an old issue of Ascent (one of the first climbing mags I ever purhcased). After reading this I thought others might find it interesting. It is from the 1972 issue. Sorry attachment didn't work. Try the link. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/showphoto.php?photo=699 PP

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Only after the groovy new Crag Forum is up and running! P

"Sure, flats are OK." PP

Pretty Much - Smarty!

Anyone going? PP

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Sloth's comment about the optional cam is a good one. If you are referring to the "Actual Cave" I would say only a couple of the routes there are worth doing. I say that not having done any of the .13s. The route on the far left (100% Beef) is juggy but short and not really in the cave. Come to think of it it is a bit of a stretch to call it a cave at all. The route just to the right of Beef (Bikini Girls) is a good route. Short crux but fun climbing. The next two are actually in the cave and I haven't even tried them but they didn't look juggy to me. The route to the right of those two routes is a fun crack that joins Mr. Big. I did this route in the middle of winter, so it must not get too wet. Mr. Big starts to the right of the cave and traverses left across the cave's top. Definately juggy climbing until the end. If you mean the Cave at North Fork, my advice would be not to waste your time going there. PP

I need to loose mine. It's taking over my life. I should have been a hit man. Not alot of hours. Good pay. Travel. PP

After seeing Climb4christ posting on RC.com I realized this thread was addressed to a real person and i finally read it. Thinking back to the first Gulf War I am reminded of these comments: "Well," he said, "my daddy, he didn't leave me much, you know he was a very simple man, but what he did tell me was this, he did say, son, he said" - there was a long pause, nervous laughter from the crowd - "he say, you know it's possible to become so defiled in this world that your own father and mother will abandon you and if that happens, God will always believe in your ability to mend your ways." PP

I read that the double axle patent expire in 2004. Does that mean there will be lots of choices in producers and prices coming in less than a year - if you like the double axle design. PP

Interesting Read on "Arab" Media PP

I know lots of you cc.comers are going to slam this as being too comercial and so on, BUT especially if you have never been to Minnehaha, this is a really fun event at a super groovy place to boot. Minnehaha has lots of fun bouldering but most of the routes are too big for bouldering. With TRs set up you will be able to climb LOTS of quality routes. The atmosphere is fun and if you aren't into a comp go to support the event and enjoy the TRs. The rock is good. Pretty pine forest and if you spend the night you can check out Dishman or the limestone crags on Sunday! I went because I thought it was better than staying home on a rainy Puget Sound weekend. On the way home I realized it was one of the best climbing trips of the year! Fav routes: Any on Don Quixote Wall esp Oomph! Secondary Face is fun as well. Good mix of easy to hard routes too. PP

Well....the yes votes seem to be running away with it! PP