Peter_Puget

You crack me up Retro! My fans and the photags follow me everywhere! For those unaware the route is about 30' long. Well maybe 35'. In anyrate it is quite short. The description "three star except that it doesn't have easy access" is a pretty revealing one! PP

I think the key is w/o hangs and being on lead. One challenge with the BOB route is not filling your jams with your pro. In addition if you are leading it onsight you can't see much of the crack after it turns up so you have to be mor ego for it. On tr with a hang you can check the crack out.

It is definately an error. It is more like 5.11c/d for a lead. The "hole" out on the face is a pretty cool feature. As I remember the crack is abrasive too! I'd say 3 star except that it doesn't have easy access. PP

One out of Four Frogs want Saddam to win! PP

Yawn…It will suffice to say that given the participants involved there is more water there than you know. Now get to work! PP

Pope Quote: "by the same party" Newer Pope Quote: " one of the two bolters telling me that he had cleaned and retro-bolted Edge of Space" I'll let your writing speak for itself. Unless of course you get me drunk and start swinging that... PP

I think that the clean up of Edge of Space was done before the DDD fiasco and that they were not done by the same party as DDD. In fact I believe it was done before the creation of this website. Pope’s info is correct that Edge of Space is a much more enjoyable lead now that you are no longer falling on 15 year old ¼” bolts. As practical matter, it is much easier to walk around rather than rap. PP

I prefer the frog pattern lycra! PP

I must warn you Erik more than two weeks in a row “off granite” will begin the process of wimpification! So be careful. PP

Dru here is a better phrase! L'Amérique, la patrie du capitalisme, sait paradoxalement débourser des sommes co lossales (comme dans l'expédition d'Irak) pour prendre soin du monde. L'Europe, qui n'a plus d'elle-même qu'une définition marchande, croit avec Adam Smith que le commerce et les échanges assurent à jamais la paix des nations. Good interview PP

Hey! You guys have turned this innocent quote into something foul and nasty. Shame! Shame! Shame! PP

A soldier quoted in the New York Times, trying to smoke a cigarette in a sandstorm. "Sometimes," he said, "you have to embrace the suck." PP

A long time ago I climbed Split Beaver with prototype/demo large Camelot. I think the #5 cam out after they had been in production awhile. Therefore it seems likely that I was using a #4; however, since it was along time ago I am not sure if the sizing on the unit I was using was the same as production units (although I can’t imagine it wasn’t) Split Beaver didn’t seem too badly protected and that it wasn’t very continuous. PP

Faced with the choice between Go Dog Go! and Time's Up which would you choose for an afternoon of fun? PP

Scott - Do you make this stuff up? PP

I meant full strength stops. The scroll pins used in old style cams have several design flaws. In my garage I have a museum of retired cams. I have a couple of Clog Cams and think they are a good deal for the dollar. PP

Good Question Mr K. Read this and find out why you feel that way. The reason you feel the way you do.

That's a summer time place Trask. I say Roadhouse near the VW. All the gym rats can come after their workout. PP

Truth comes in the oddest places: For the New York Times is a hyper-capitalist vacuum which sucks in high commodity advertising targeted to its wealthy readers, covering it with a pathetic, neosocialist editorial slant, designed to disguise its plutocratic raison d'etre: handbags for the rich and editorials for the poor. Artnet.com link

"The U.S. is the only ally providing Tokyo with deterrent power against any foreign country that could threaten regional security, such as North Korea, and the Japanese people should never forget it." - Japanese Prime Minister, Junichiro Koizumi. Link PP

Clog cams (at least the version currently sold at REI Outlet) are the same as Technical Friends circa early 90's. (Clog is a related entity to WC) I am sure they are fine cams. They do not have cam stops and do not have the plastic stem reinforcements of the modern day version but the sizing is the same as Wild Country Friends. Wild Country PP

At 7th & Mish, by the U.S. Court House, I sat in a van driven by Nathaniel Shelton, who transports patients to and from Saint Francis Memorial Hospital. We were stuck, along with a fleet of Fed Ex drivers, just after 9 a.m., as demonstrators rode bikes in a circle in the intersection, closed it off with colored string, and berated the truck drivers. "It's almost as if they were protesting us," said Shelton. Indeed, the enmity and ridicule of the protesters was directed at working people trying to get their work done. The massive Court House, a seat of government power, was ignored. At the Civic Center, a group of demonstrators defecated. Then they left, leaving the mess to be cleaned up by others. Not only disgusting, but this idiocy belittles the proud tradition of civic protest in our national history ... Sigh ... link

Here's one from Mr. Andrew Sullivan: I biked past a rather pathetic figure in Dupont Circle this afternoon. barely old enough to grow a beard, this poor soul was wearing a large cardboard placard: "Ashamed American." Ashamed. Ashamed of the liberation of a people from an unspeakable tyrant. It's a form of self-hatred and inverse liberalism that truly boggles the mind. here's Eric Hoffer from "The True Believer: Thoughts on the nature of Mass Movements: It is easier for the frustrated to detect their own imaginings and hear the echo of their own musings in impassioned double-talk and sonorous refrains than in precise words joined together with faultless logic ... That the deprecating attitude of a mass movement toward the present seconds the inclinations of the frustrated is obvious. What surprises one, when listening to the frustrated as they decry the present and all its works, is the enormous joy they derive from doing so. Such delight cannot come from the mere venting of a grievance. There must be something more - and there is. By expatiating upon the incurable baseness and vileness of the times, the frustrated soften their feeling of failure and isolation. Yes, failure and isolation. And it's going to get worse and worse for these deluded apologists for evil.

I declare you silly! PP