Lambone

You know what, Jim is right. I don't even really care about the stupid route, or the whole bolting controversy. Bolts next to cracks piss me off too. It's your freakin' attitude that gets my goat, I mean Lamb... I bet you feel as self rightious as that french guy Luc, who put a chisel to some of the best boulder problems in the world just to prove a point. I'd just like to see any of you guys get up on DDD now that its restored. I'll give ya a good belay, I promise... [This message has been edited by lambone (edited 07-20-2001).]

Stick it up your ass!

What, you want to make this some kind of war? You think you deserve a medal? Maybe I should go rally up a posse and go put bolts up next to Godzilla. Then I'll rap down and strip 'em with a crowbar. I'd do it just to piss you lame asses off. I'd be following in Hardings footsteps. The fact is that what you did is'nt really going to make a difference to anyone. All that it means is one less safe lead climb at Castle Rock. I am sure every climber that passes by that spot is really going to appreciate your handiwork, sure... Why don't you go pull off all those rusty old bolts all over the Lower wall while your at it. No one does those climbs anyway. Your fighting a pointless battle Retro. Face it man, your ethic is dead in this day and age. Get over it. Let people climb safely and be happy. If you don't like the bolts, don't clip 'em. There are plenty of other climbs with ground fall potential, go find one and get on it. Good luck...

Wil, in my experience: sometimes- burly climbing = loud mouth assholiness sometimes- burly climbing = quiet compassion Point is it can definately go both ways, it depends on the persons ego. Some of the greatest people-men and women- I have met are incredible climbers and some have made me want to puke... Bottom line is leave the stereotypes to golfers. Unless you are talking about the Klan that is!

Yeah, I'd rather not know who Dwayner is. His mystery intrigues me. It would figure that he studies old bones and fossils though! First hand experience would make him an expert on the subject ... I am sure he just loves the fact that there are people on the internet trying to figure out who he really is. My opinion...who cares! [This message has been edited by lambone (edited 07-19-2001).]

Erik, you have three hands? That must be exiting!! Bet it helps you get the job done faster, before your boss peeks over the cubicle!

Oh yeah, "the untouchables". Thats some crazy shit... Erik and Dru sittin' in a tree, KISSING, firt comes love, then comes...

Whatch it Sp.Ed, just remember what happened last time. You come up on me too quik and I'll just have to let 'um fly!!!

Light and fast climbers always want to pass you. And on certain climbs (like walls) they can be a real pain in the ass. Then they drop shit on you cause they are in such a hurry! .02$

Keep scroling down... I gots to give props to my boy Eric W.!!!! Way to go bro! Actually I only briefly met him at Ama Dablam's bascamp. But he was super nice. The kind of guy you can become instant friends with. We all failed on summiting Ama Dablam that year, so I am super stoaked that he made it up the big one. Woooooohoooooooo!!!!!!!

Whats up with the Marine lingo Thumbs? You an enlisted man?

Chipping is fucked, esspecialy as an act of revenge. I can sympithize with Luc about being underpaid at a climbing gym! But stealing and vandalizm is super lame.

Eeeasy whillians... What the hell do you care about someone who posts on this site? Does it affect you in some way?

Dwayner, come here for a moment, sit down over here my friend. First of all, I never commented on my thoughts about Jardines actions, nor did I judge or critisize him in any way. Look at what I posted; the only person I was judging was Cpt. Caveman who seems to have forgoton how much he hates people who scar the rock. Second, you mention a "revolutionary approach to light wilderness travel". What! Come on man, you grew up with John Muir, didn't he ever take you up into the mountains and show you how to live with a half a loaf of bread and a wool blanket? Jardine is reinventing the wheel. And if he hadn't invented cams, I would have! he,he,he Erik, as far as my Tom Brown plug: what can I say, I was a Boy Scout. And a buddy of my studied under Brown for a while. As far as John J. from the "ranch" in Bozeman... You got a picture? I knew a bunch of Johns, and half of 'em lived on so called "ranches". It is the thing to call your house in Montana. Everyones got one...

I did the Irene's Arete once. It was awsome, but I think it has a pitch or two of 5.9. I remember leading one scary section that was a bit run out above these huge blocky spike things. Otherwise the rock quality and protection is good. The last pitch finishes on a wonderfull knifeblade ridge.

Cool. I don't want to talk about Dale. But I respect a guy like Tom Brown alot more than Jardine. Ray needs-9 lbs., Brown-0 I hope you live a happy life too Caveman, I just had to call you on the hypocricy.

Yeah Cavey, I'm talkin to you... What happened to your morals? Last week you were about to kill Dale cause he knows some guy that added bolts to some stupid peice of choss in Tumwater. Now your hero is a guy who took a hammer and chisel to The Nose. Wassup' sucka... [This message has been edited by lambone (edited 07-18-2001).]

I think its pretty funny that you Trad-Klanners are such big Jardine fans... Considering that he chipped and bolted one of the most beautiful natural lines in the world.

The worst shit I have seen was actually in the Rockies. Ex.- the frozen Kitty Litter found ajacent to Ice climbs in Cody, WY. and Hyalite Canyon, Mt. Maybe you just really notice it when your lookin for a good anchor on a thin ice climb... But then again, I'd agree with Dru that the volcano's must be the worst. I've seen more holds break in the Gym than in the Mountains. Only cause I try to use the light tough on Alpine choss.

Slab campusing is the dopest new technique... yall got to jump on the wagon. It makes those bolted domes in Icicle seem like a cake walk.

Hey Dwayner, I just like lighting fires under your ass to get ya all fired up... Its fun to see what you'll come back with. No hard feelings buddy.

All of the above Cavey... It only gets lame when people get really pissed off. Then its time to step away from the screen and chill out. Go climbin' or somethin'.

Hey Specialed, First of all, don't start talkin' about Caveman's boyfriend. We all know that Dwayner gets really pissed off whenever someone brings up his name. If you are with me on this tagteam thing, we have got alot of work ahead of us. Take a look at our competition for a second... In one corner you have Mr. Dwayner, the old schooler who learned to climb back when it was still dangerous, back when they weaved their own ropes out of hemp. He has a special knack for finding any excuse to spew pointless bullshit about all the dangerous stuff he has done in his lifetime, and how much Mickey's he drinks. Well, I suppose his point is that no one should do dangerous stuff unless they are as skilled as he is, or else they will die. Oh Yeah, he is also outraged that all the new route development these days is being done with a drill, cause when he was in his prime he had to suffer with a hammer and chisel. Wach out for his temper, and his elequent yet condesending use of words. Don't let him fool ya, those dentures are really freakin' sharp. We need to get them away from him before he eats us alive. In the other corner we have Cpt. Caveman, and he is fuckin pissed at you... Either we get pissed back, or he is going to smash us with his big burly club. Watch out, Cavey has a special talent for digging up tons of useless garbage off the internet and posting it on this site. He knows how to get pictures into these threads which puts us at a huge disadvantage. The shit he pulls up is sometimes pretty funny, so we can't let him win the crowds support. I think our best tactic is to hit 'um below the belt where it really hurts. And don't give him time to do another Google search. We can't let him be funny here, this is SERIOUS! We allready got him flamin' mad, so hopefully he will slip up. We can get these guys, just keep your eye out for Pope, if he comes rushin in then we are screwed. Tell Strickland that we may need him if these guys decide to triple team us. Fuck the Trad-Klan, well take 'um all down!! Are you with me Ed, if so let the battle comence. And if not thats OK cause I can take these two pussies on myself. It wont be the first time... [This message has been edited by lambone (edited 07-17-2001).]

Plus, the poor guys have to deal with everyone from Joe shmo touron/wannabe mountaineer to real climbers. They have to assume that everyone doesn't know there head from their ass so they don't assist in getting some idiot killed. So don't be offended when they tell you that conditions suck, and you are going to die! Bottom line is, figure it out for yourself.

Rangers can be totally cool, just like some cops. And all you people who are bitching about bad info that you got from some ranger are just upset with your own insequrities. Try leaving the guide book at home, quite asking for beta, and go find out what the wilderness is like for yourself. Or, quit bitchin'... Give 'um a break, its not like they are making alot of money off of you.