Lambone

Don't listen to him Dru, he doesn't know the secret handshake. Hey Willians, when you said that you knew Sean, did you mean Fitz? How?

Sure, so I should believe you though? Or anyone else who posts on this silly site. What makes you an authority? I am just curious, this is not an attack. I have taken several Environmental Issues courses in both Washington and Montana. I have heard all the dirt from Biologists and Rangers in the department. I was a student of F+W for a while... All claim that paying user fees is better than trying to cheat the system. My point is, I have heard tons of people claim that the government lies. Well I don't doubt it, but why should I believe you?

Hey David, Did you ever here of the fact that user fee's go to improvement? Or would you rather that the forest service sell off the land to timber companies to get their money? The US Forest Service and Fish and Wildlife Departments don't get shit from the government as it is. What is so bad about chipping in thirty bucks a year to the cause? You can afford the gas, why not just buy the permit? Or are you one of those guys who is too cool for government regulation? Don't forget that our recreation is a privilage offered to us as a result of the American system.

Well, you know... i figure I'm wasting time, I might as well waste space too. Lets here you make fun of caveman!

Don't listen to him Caveman. This thread is about negativity. Back to the BATTLECAGE... you suck. I'd like to see you try and alpine climb.

Sorry Caveman, you are just so easy to bait. I've caught ten pound bass with smaller worms. We both have trigger tempers, but I'm over it. Have fun this weekend! One more North Ridge attempt for you? Weather should be good this time. About the topic, I don't think any climbing area should be kept a secrect, be it Ice, Rock, Choss...whatever. If it is on public land than it should be made public. If the private land owner gives permision to the public to climb there, than info should be available to all. Keeping spots a secret is B.S. Then again, I don't put up routes so what do I know...

He started it.

Sorry slapphappy. This was all just to prove a point that the original message behind this thread is true. I figured caveman would be the easiest to rile up for my experiment. He gave me the perfect oportunity by sending that list to my e-mail. No hard feelings cavey.

Well fine then! See if I care! Poopy face.

Maybe you should give credit to the first ascensionist.

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I already deleted that crap. Thanks for the directions, and your hit list. Don't count on finding me there. Why don't you just post it for everyone to see.

BATTLECAGE! Should I go ahead and copy and paste your threats cavey? Or would that just be restating the obvious? You have fun with yourself buddy, I just found better things to do with my time.

Not your first huh!? OOOOh really, tell me more, tell me more... On lead huh!? Wooooow, you must be like the old school hardmen. Thats soooo burly! Tell us all cavey, how cool are you? Really, we want to here it from the horses mouth, or should I say-ASS!!!

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WOW my joke will live on in infamy! Make sure it gets published in the next guide book ok! And tell me where it is so I can go show my friends. So what does it feel like to be a first ascensionist cavey? Is it everything you ever dreamed of?

Cavey, You want to talk about bad costomer service, my buddy left Seattle at five in the morning to drive out to Leavenworth to meet you at 8:00 at your request. Of course, you were not there. First rule of costomer service in retail is BE ON TIME. I think he will like the Prophets you sold him though!

I've told this story before, but I love it so I'll tell it again... My bro and I were climbing the Tripple Direct on El Cap. I just finished a traversing pitch over to Camp 4 about midway up the route. The pitch traversed alot so I radioed down to my bro to belay the bags out slowly. Since he is such a tough guy, he figured that he could hold on to the 7mm cord with his gloved hands to lower them out. Well... our 150lb bag got the best of him. It flew across the rock and slammed into a big dihedral. I heard a loud POP and saw a white thing go flying away from the bag. At first I thought, what the fuck was that! Then I saw the first one fly out, then the second, and then the third, fourth, fifth, and so on... Poor parties on the Nose probably didn't even know what hit 'um. Till they smelled the chilly I had eaten three days earlier. Sorry guys, it wasn't my fault... really. Well on second thought, I guess I should have used more glue! [This message has been edited by lambone (edited 08-10-2001).]

Or did you just fail the belay test and are afraid to admit it to all your CC.com buddies...

Caveman, Hey, I'm sorry you were unsatisfied with the service at the Redmond Gym. I don't know those guys, but alot of times the VW staff tends to be really sarcastic. Costomers don't allways pick up on the joke, or just not think it was funny. My guess is that you were pissed off before you even walked into the gym. Oh well, life goes on. As for the price, hell it's alot cheaper than skiing, or a regular fitness gym for that matter. It's a buisness man, and it's not cheap to run a buisness these days. Check out the prices for Rock Climbing Gyms in Tokyo if you think you've got it bad. As for SG vrs. VW, go to both and decide which you like better. Thats the benifit of living in this beautiful country of ours! But come on, why don't you tell us what really happened at the gym... Ok, let me guess. You went in there, changed into your spandex jumpsuit, yanked on those old dirty EB's, and chalked up. You were going to stretch, but then you saw some hot babe over in the bouldering cave. You tried to hit on her, but she was two focused on her project and woudn't give you the time of day. So in a desperate attempt to win her attention you jumped on this really cool lookin V5. You stuck the deadpoint to the mono, then- POP!!!!! Yes, the whole gym heard it Cavey, we all know what happened. You thought you were tough... and now you have a blown ring tendon. Well done. Don't take it out on the staff man, we see this kind of shit happen every day. Thats what waiver forms are for... Lambone the gym rat/devil [This message has been edited by lambone (edited 08-10-2001).]

Yeah, he said you just talked about how many cool new first ascents you've done. Right on man good for you. I was out gettin some in the Mountains.

Oh yeah Mr. Blister, I think you are right, the North Ridge does look like a better route. Just a little more involved than we were up for. Mabye next time.

Ya bro, that was us. I'm glad you had a great trip! I am also glad that you warned us about the rats. We buried our stuff under a ton of rocks and some how fooled 'em. Either that, or they just don't like my BO! As for the rock, Its the worst I've seen on any "clasic" alpine ridge line. I'll spare you the list of my experience, but I'd go as far as saying that I've havent seen worse rock in Montana, let alone the Sierras. But then again I am pretty new to the Cascades, mabye I'm just ignorant... I just have this thing about marginal gear, and big perched loose death blocks. Especialy when there are parties traversing bellow you. You never know when someone like officespace might sue your ass. Anyway you guys must have been moving too fast to notice the bad rock. I think you did the route about twice as fast as us! Well done. See ya next time!

I guess I am not cool enough to play with you guys... Thats OK, I didn't want to be part of your stupid game anyway... just kiddin'! [This message has been edited by lambone (edited 08-15-2001).]