Lambone

One thing to keep in mind Dwayner. Some companys will void the lifetime warranty if the lable is colored in. For instance, I used to work at The North Face... they would color in the lables of their factory seconds to void the warranty. So, although I agree with your opinion (for once), it might be wise to check with the company first. Namaste, Matt

Oh yeah, please support the little guys! Small retailers are introuble cause of these .coms and wholsale magazines. Buy from Jim, but be carefull not to make him feel "uncomfortable"!

Come and get it...

His name is Peter. What else do you want, his adresse and phone #. No one would be crazy enough to tell you that. Hell I am scared that you've got my e-mail adresse. And he has a good point.

Hey,hey,hey... I never said anything about violence. Caveman would cruh me. Anyone who knows me would bet on him and no one would win anything. Cavey, go back and check it out, you are the one who brought this debate to this board. What are we debating anyway? Nothing. I guess I was just calling you a spraying macho loser, but that is common knowledge. And yes I have every right to take attacks on VW personally. I spend alot of time there, I really like 99.9% of our regular customers, and I try to make them happy so they feel like they are getting their $'s worth. I don't know what that employee at Redmond is all about, but come down to Seattle and I bet you'll have a different experience. See ya.

Scott, Good question, when I first exposed the Clan to the general public I made absolutely no reference to the KKK. I never even used K's at first, someone else started that. I was worried that a connection would be made, but where people take a stupid joke is out of my hands. Infact, I think you are the first to mention the KKK... Still, the CTC or KTK is alive and kicking, and I didn't name them. They are not racist by any means. However, they do discriminate against gym climbers, sport climbers, and boulderers openly. That said, some one told me that they have secret meetings at the bar on Tuesday nights.

Hmmm... Interesting. Thanks! I should just keep my mouth shut when it comes to things that I really don't know about. I bought a pass just so I didn't have to worry about a stupid ticket. Maybe I'm part of the problem, but don't go calling me a wussie. The ranger was a nice old lady, maybe she was really a devil in disguise!

Don't listen to him Dru, he doesn't know the secret handshake. Hey Willians, when you said that you knew Sean, did you mean Fitz? How?

Sure, so I should believe you though? Or anyone else who posts on this silly site. What makes you an authority? I am just curious, this is not an attack. I have taken several Environmental Issues courses in both Washington and Montana. I have heard all the dirt from Biologists and Rangers in the department. I was a student of F+W for a while... All claim that paying user fees is better than trying to cheat the system. My point is, I have heard tons of people claim that the government lies. Well I don't doubt it, but why should I believe you?

Hey David, Did you ever here of the fact that user fee's go to improvement? Or would you rather that the forest service sell off the land to timber companies to get their money? The US Forest Service and Fish and Wildlife Departments don't get shit from the government as it is. What is so bad about chipping in thirty bucks a year to the cause? You can afford the gas, why not just buy the permit? Or are you one of those guys who is too cool for government regulation? Don't forget that our recreation is a privilage offered to us as a result of the American system.

Well, you know... i figure I'm wasting time, I might as well waste space too. Lets here you make fun of caveman!

Don't listen to him Caveman. This thread is about negativity. Back to the BATTLECAGE... you suck. I'd like to see you try and alpine climb.

Sorry Caveman, you are just so easy to bait. I've caught ten pound bass with smaller worms. We both have trigger tempers, but I'm over it. Have fun this weekend! One more North Ridge attempt for you? Weather should be good this time. About the topic, I don't think any climbing area should be kept a secrect, be it Ice, Rock, Choss...whatever. If it is on public land than it should be made public. If the private land owner gives permision to the public to climb there, than info should be available to all. Keeping spots a secret is B.S. Then again, I don't put up routes so what do I know...

He started it.

Sorry slapphappy. This was all just to prove a point that the original message behind this thread is true. I figured caveman would be the easiest to rile up for my experiment. He gave me the perfect oportunity by sending that list to my e-mail. No hard feelings cavey.

Well fine then! See if I care! Poopy face.

Maybe you should give credit to the first ascensionist.

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I already deleted that crap. Thanks for the directions, and your hit list. Don't count on finding me there. Why don't you just post it for everyone to see.

BATTLECAGE! Should I go ahead and copy and paste your threats cavey? Or would that just be restating the obvious? You have fun with yourself buddy, I just found better things to do with my time.

Not your first huh!? OOOOh really, tell me more, tell me more... On lead huh!? Wooooow, you must be like the old school hardmen. Thats soooo burly! Tell us all cavey, how cool are you? Really, we want to here it from the horses mouth, or should I say-ASS!!!

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WOW my joke will live on in infamy! Make sure it gets published in the next guide book ok! And tell me where it is so I can go show my friends. So what does it feel like to be a first ascensionist cavey? Is it everything you ever dreamed of?

Cavey, You want to talk about bad costomer service, my buddy left Seattle at five in the morning to drive out to Leavenworth to meet you at 8:00 at your request. Of course, you were not there. First rule of costomer service in retail is BE ON TIME. I think he will like the Prophets you sold him though!