Lambone

quote: Originally posted by Charlie: The guy is a dick. Notice how many extra mags for his (our) glock he had on his gun belt? I counted (3). Tell me that's not a gung- ho authority monger. Armed to the tee, with a bad attitude. I grew up in white center- where there were real badguys, and a REAL chance of a cop getting shot at, and they were a lot cooler- especially to harmless white kids. I was completely cooperative to him last weekend and felt like I was miss treated. He went out of his way to treet me like I was an asshole. I wasn't there, so I didn't notice his bullets. Notice I said I was playing devils advocate for the hell of it... Notice how you just went out of your way to treat me like an asshole...for absolutely no reason. Notice that I still think you are a prick, and I'd rather go climbing with officer Larry...

eriK's a punk...you better save some of them greens for me when you get back! whatch out for National Park cops, they are even worse! [ 05-03-2002, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: erik ]

Thanks bro, I guess I should define DEVIL'S ADVOCATE in bold before making such a statement eh...? After reading this thread I just thought it was funny how everyone jumped on the FUCK LARRY bandwagon...but I think mattp has a right to be upset, and he did the right thing by writting the letter to the supervisor. However, my 10 year old cousin could have made a stronger argument in writting. The letter posted on the first page of this thread reads as imature and unfounded. If I was Larry's boss I'd be laughing and filling it in the circular file. Nothing personal mattp, once again, good luck.

quote: Originally posted by erik: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: Whatever, brothers are gettin shot in the hood, or on the freeway for less than a parking pass. what ever dude, air jordans are a $150 a pop. teice that if you get a pain the first four series......you thug logic is off base whitey!!! I'm not sure i am understanding you...but, maybe I should have been more clear. I meant, bro's are getting shot by cops...

Acctually I was refering to the African Americans that were shot in Seattle and New Yourk etc. within the last year or so... Fuck me for having an opinion, asshole... Sounds like you guys are all ganging up on a cop because you dont agree with the law. Cops are all the same man, they get paid to be hardasses, it's not the individual that you are really angry with, stop kidding yourself.

quote: Originally posted by Son of Caveman: Bone- I've noticed your rougher demeaner lately. Got your black belt finally? Two reasons... 1) Gotta make up for lost time... 2) More stress at school lately. Midterms next week. This site is cheaper then stress therapy treatment. Just take it out on others... BTW- I have no avatars, and I'm glad Caveman has a new wimp to pick on...

quote: Originally posted by Son of Caveman: Bone- I've noticed your rougher demeaner lately. Got your black belt finally? Two reasons... 1) Gotta make up for lost time... 2) More stress at school lately. Midterms next week. This site is cheaper then stress therapy treatment. Just take it out on others... BTW- I have no avatars, and I'm glad Caveman has a new wimp to pick on...

I ordered mine a month ago...cant wait to take it to Darrington and do some first ascents! Barabes.com has them real cheap...

I never met the guy, so I'll just play Devil's Advocate for a minute...I don't condone lameness in anyway shape or form, But... Come on, give up the "poor-me" attitude guys/girls! I mean really, like life is so bad 'cause some dorky "Suit" jaded your otherwise perfect day of recreation. Whatever, brothers are gettin shot in the hood, or on the freeway for less than a parking pass. I am all about voicing an opinion to the man, and I believe in checks and balances in the system, but I am just having a hard time feeling sorry for you guys. Yeah, it sounds like one of those cops that everyone loves to hate. But when put into the context of the grand scheme of todays society, your complaint is laughable, both in this counrty, and especialy in countries/cultures much less privilaged than us. The vision of the monk pouring gasoline all over himself comes to mind. This point could be argued either way for days, if it had happened to me I'd be mumbeling "fuck you I won't do what you tell me" under my breath. Good luck with the strugle.

Hey Alpine K, I should also mention, nice job on that tree! Chrysten is way psyched about the work. Looks good... If you got trees to cut, K's your man. As long as he remembers to bring his chainsaw!

there are no restrictions on El Cap any longer, but the Rostrum has been closed some lately.

...'or sons of cavemen'...

Jens, I wouldn't call myself a biologist, but I studied F+WL management for a bit. Anyway... Falcon numbers have risen in the last ten or so years. However, populations are now also begining to inhabit urban areas. I'm sure others have heard about the Perigrines living on rooftops in New York and so on... However, it is amazing how fragile the nesting cycle's for 'birds of prey' are. Many minor disturbance's can "cause" nesting parents to abandon the nest. Reproduction rates for falcons are not like oh lets say ferrel cats for instance... I realize how contradictory those two statments are, but ya'll get my drift, it's like apples and oranges. Just something to consider when tromping around looking for the "best crack yet." [ 05-02-2002, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

whatever dude...I am Bone...there is no other...

'Cause it's better then doing GIS...for the moment. It's not really Dwayner that upsets me. I'm very much a to-each-his-own kinda person. Thats' why I typicaly stay out of the bolting debate. The thing that bothers me is the attitude that many "elietist KTK" for lack of a better term, old schoolers walk around with. It's like they have written off the youth as a generation that is bound to fuck everything up, and forget about the ethics that they grew up with. It is a fact of life that there are different types of climbers, with different ethics. That is never going to change .The problem, in my opinion, is the lack of communication and respect between the those groups. Attitudes like the one Mr. Dwayner displays publcly foster the growth of seperation between mad-bolters and trad climbers, boulderers and aid-climbers...whatever. The comments and stereotypes that come out of this type of discourse only lead to resentment and disrespect. I'm not saying that this is all Dwayners fault, it's everyones. He is not a hypocrite, he is bitter and has good reason to be, he upholds to his values 100%...and I respect that. But the way slams the youth and portrays over-bolting as some sort of new phenomenon is total bullshit. The bolting standards were also set by his generation (Warren Harding for example), and the clean climbing ethic is not prevalent enough in todays "sport" crowd due to a lack of cohesion within the climbing community. Most of this is driven by the media... Anyway...blah,blah,blah...this is more fun over beers. no hard feelings, enjoy the sun!

Yeah. Well my point is, that if you had shut the fuck up for two minutes and listened to me, you might have realized that we share the same opinion. We just have two different ways of approaching the problem.

You may want to try talking to Andy at Vertical World in Seattle. He's the head route-setter/hold-buyer. He might be interested.

Nice, this should be fun...keep'em comin savusiniwatever...and don't let 'em intimidate you!

Hey 'K, I founded the godamn KTK! Just let me know if you need a history lesson on the topic... Just for the record, the source of my anger today was being obligated to conduct tedious affairs indors whilst mine alpine bretheran commenced the pulling of stone in the briliant sunshine...poor me. Dwayner was just the poor victim of my inner angst. He be my muthafucka...

Actually, no I couldn't care less about what you or anyone else that I hardly know thinks of me. If you want to make your judgements based on superficial inernet bullshit then go right ahead. The fact that you even think that I value your opinion toward me is evidence of your own self righteousness. Here is a tip, if you ever want anyone to respect the ethical bullshit you spew, then sign up in a Listening Skills 101 class ASAP. I can't believe you demand respect from a generation that you mock and scoff at...as far as I'm concerned you can stick your double standard up your ass and spin on it . Anyway, I was joking around you asshole...lighten up "Mr. Aloha." But since you wanted to get agro here, this is what I think of you: In my opinion, you are just another one of those people who can't wait until the other person is done speaking so that you can get the last word. I doubt you remember anything I said to you that night because you were too busy formulating your own hypotheses, waiting for your turn to spew. However, I remember most of what you said, especially the comment about the kids who are learning to climb today...and how they will get a probably new Bosch for Christmas...etc.,etc. Remember that comment...the one where you openly insulted something that I said was important to me...? And you are the one asking ME why people think I AM the jackass...try looking in the mirror sometime bro. [ 04-30-2002, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

dude, you get those letters because you gave your address to some sleezy porn site...you dig your own grave, you sleep in it....

quote: Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by specialed: quote:Originally posted by dyno merchant: I just looked at the smoots "work in progress" bouldering guide on his web site. Wow!!! Boulderers unite and show the world that we aren't caught in the seventies!!! (check the guide on his site to see what I'm talking about) Please send him photos and info so that we can step into the year 2002!!!!!!! You've got it backwards choad merchant. Boulderings about as 70's as Britney Spears. Just like Britney its a hip new fad that just won't be hip in a couple years. Y'all will be moving onto something else like piercing your scrotum or sumthin. Scrotum holes are oldskool. Grafting your scrotum onto your forehead is where itz at. I just thought it'd be cool to have three quoted posts within mine...

are you sure...looks a bit mossy to me...

Fuck off...I'll kill you first, then i'm comin for Caveman...